Falco SHL

[dr34m]

I am not very good at SHLing, but I am working on it.

What are some of the best advantages of it, with Falco especially but also with Fox?

Is it true that SHLing with Falco lets you shoot faster than normal?


Thanks

~d

[jrta]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35379

[soberfox]

Yes, much faster than usual. Just short hop, blaster, and fast fall repeatedly. It's one of the most annoying techniques in the game and it's useful in every one of Falcos matchup. Definetly a must learn if you actually plan on getting serious with Falco.

[VilNess]

(an @sshole Ness player visits the forum and this is what you get)

I think that a good counter tactic to those SHL´rs is learning to Powershield (I think it´s relatively easy against falcos laser) or with Game&Watch or Ness use your down B!

I´v heard that falco can SHL at close range and Fsmash after it. True? if it is, then ouch!

[dr34m]

thank you all very much

i'm going to work on it more XD. sorry to bring it up again, but i didnt see it in falco/fox section. thanks for the link

-d

[soberfox]

Yes VilNess, Falco can SHL at close range and then Fsmash after it...why wouldn't he be able to?

[Tiller420]

SHLing works great but you have to master it so you can hit short characters yo remember

[VilNess]

sober: what I meant was to ask if that tactic is good.
I think a pwershielding nerd might give some problems to falco even at close range.... That´s if the SHL is excpetable.

[ChRed2AKrisp]

In addition to the obvious fact that SHL is faster than a normal laser, u can also move or backwards. So you can get in damage while pinning the opponent and get either closer to him/her for a better attack or farther away to recover(depends on whether u play offense:demon: or defense). ur choice

[soberfox]

Yes, VilNess the tactic is pretty good..but it needs to be spaced properly or your just asking to be Shield Grabbed.

[Glide]

Just remember to Fast fall it if you're spamming/staying in place. That's a big problem, and people will just walk under your lasers if you don't. If you're not fast-falling and moving forward/backward, make sure you're hitting it slightly later, so that your lasers won't just go over them either. Tough to get the timing at first, but practice, as always, makes perfect.

[Rebel581]

Also you could probably fast-fall or not depending on if the opponent is trying to get past them one way or the other. Don't fast fall if they're trying to jump over and stop them from jumping and if they're trying to walk under it fast fall it. Although this may be harder to predict it could come in handy.

And I find fsmashing after a SHB very useful with Falco, stuns them so I can hit them.

[soberfox]

Unless they shield the laser as well. Don't let following up SHL approaches with fsmash become a habitual tactic, as people catch onto it rather quickly and start Shield grabbing/dodging it.

[Rebel581]

Originally posted by soberfox
Unless they shield the laser as well. Don't let following up SHL approaches with fsmash become a habitual tactic, as people catch onto it rather quickly and start Shield grabbing/dodging it.

Hmm... true. I"m not too experienced with the SHB in the first place since I know how to do it but I still haven't worked many combos into it. Just kind of annoy my friends with it then when they attack me I hit them usually. I'll remember to try and mix it up such as maybe a grab would do well afterwards

[GanondorftheXXVI]

erm.... I've been SHLing with falco for a while now, and I can do it pretty well, I think. The only thing I dont get is how u guys say that is it faster than regular standing laser. If you mean pressing b, shooting, letting falco replace the gun in its holster, and then shooting again, tou are right. But SHL is not faster than repeatedly pressing b. Perhaps, if done at optimum speed, it would be ABOUT the same rapidity. But it's by no means MUCH faster than repeated B.

EDIT: Don't get me wrong guys, I still prefer SHL a million times to regular laser, for the sole fact that it lets you move and helps approaches, this is just something that's been on my mind.

[falcoblazes]

it is faster than regular shooting with Falco, Because of all that lag time after shooting it, SHL gives u movement of course plus any other move thats appropriate to use, :chuckle: it's mainly Falco's trump card, so if anyone even think of playing with Falco, u learn this to perfection.

[ChRed2AKrisp]

Originally posted by Rebel581
Hmm... true. I"m not too experienced with the SHB in the first place since I know how to do it but I still haven't worked many combos into it. Just kind of annoy my friends with it then when they attack me I hit them usually. I'll remember to try and mix it up such as maybe a grab would do well afterwards

Yes Rebel I would have to agree that you most definately annoy your friends w/ it, as you well know. Spammer!

Edit: On a different note, playing 1/4th speed when fast-falling the laser it does cancel the animation but then Falco crouches from the impact into the ground. Can you l cancel this? Maybe im thinking of something else, though.

[Rebel581]

You can't L-cancel B attacks. Not possible. So no.

[Insemination_17]

Speaking of L-Cancelling, here is a question for those who play with multiple characters like myself, or for others,.....what is the only aerial move in the game that cannot be L-canceled?????

-also-

Who is the only character in the game who can crouch cancel at up to 999%?

Hint, Hint: They both involve the same character......

.............

This should be easy for some of you guys....

-Peace

[Rebel581]

Originally posted by Insemination_17
Speaking of L-Cancelling, here is a question for those who play with multiple characters like myself, or for others,.....what is the only aerial move in the game that cannot be L-canceled?????

-also-

Who is the only character in the game who can crouch cancel at up to 999%?

Hint, Hint: They both involve the same character......

.............

This should be easy for some of you guys....

-Peace

Any B move used in the air. The second one I don't know There is no A aerial attack that can't be l-cancelled.

[ChRed2AKrisp]

i guess i'm not one of those guys.

since this is the fox falco boards i'd guess one of those 2 for Q #2. But since my first guess is never right(a fact ive learned to live with) i might go w/ Samus b/c she is has a very good CC and even if you do get blasted down from the CC you can use her superior recovery to return to the stage.

so enlighten me already

[Nephilim]

I think it's Kirbys d air or G&Ws up air that can't be l cancelled.

[Insemination_17]

Rebel - You're wrong dude. Sorry man I meant an A aerial attack.

Neophilim - Correct,........but which one of the two.

People, the answer to the first question is between one of those two aerial attacks that he just mentioned. Once you get that one right, you'll instantly know the second question, because of the **** hint I gave.:)

$hit, you guys are quick.....

-Peace

[Nephilim]

G&W now gimme all your gil.

[Insemination_17]

That's it! I love G&W, even though he's like my 8th character..... What the **** is that?, I don't want no ****ing gil.....keep it if you want it man, jeez.............................j/k lol

I said this once today, and I laughed a bit when I said it, it was just too funny I got to share it:

"That has got to be the dummest, most f u c k i n g idiotic thing anyone has ever said. I will not come even remotely close to what you just proposed, you sick sadistic f u c k!!".................lol

-Peace

[Rebel581]

You can l-cancel G&W's dair since you can l-cancel any aerial. And I'm pretty sure I've done it before.

[ChRed2AKrisp]

i hate to break it to you but this is an SHL thread, not LCing. its an interesting topic, but could u put it in a different thread? i'm just starting w/ Falco and I need all the info I can get.

[Nappydude]

Wasn't we talking about Falco and SHing, by the way i'm Falcoblazes
:chuckle:

[ChRed2AKrisp]

Originally posted by Nappydude
Wasn't we talking about Falco and SHing, by the way i'm Falcoblazes
:chuckle:
WTF?
One your screen name ain't Falcoblazes, 2 Falco blazes has 26 posts you have 15. If ur gonna post make sure it makes sense.

Edit: u have a different sig also.

[Rebel581]

He didn't like his old accounts name so he created a new one. And the only reason to use the SHB over just regularly firing it is you can react quicker to whatever comes at you and can combo and move with it.

[ChRed2AKrisp]

He didn't like his old accounts name so he created a new one.

Heh heh. So im a dum@$$