Airal Luigi

[Tiller420]

Airal Luigi is prob the best after playing against my friends with it. the best thing to do is the chop has great priority and useful when short hoppin and pressing down quick the chop is very effictive and then short hop drill kick cause its so powerful with luigi and randomly shoot some fireballs somtimes and dont forget to use cyclone a very usful move and it helps u get back to the ledge if u practice a bit with it.

[Sintenal]

true his air game is great, but you need his ground game as well. His throws are good for combos(uthrow on fastfallers, dthrow on others, and fthrow on some lighter characters)

his uair i think can be very useful. On characters like Doc, uair can lead to a fair, and gettin a fair is always nice.

I wouldnt use fireball that much, i only use it for ledgeguarding to distrupt things such as 2nd jumps, bomb jumps, and it can be useful on the space animals

[TWP]

Yeah, Luigi is good in there air, and the dair is my favorite move over the fair (tells you how much I know huh ?)

Anyway, its like this, I can't really land the spike consistantly, but jumping in with the dair sends them outwards horizontally, which you can use to start Wd combos.

Well that's my horrible Luigi advice for the month...

[Tiller420]

i think all his smash moves are very useful especially when u use the c joy stick cause there time to recover is very quick on all of them.......the thing i hate is some people with projeciles can fuick luigis revovery up pretty bad.

[VilNess]

Originally posted by Tiller420
.....the thing i hate is some people with projeciles can fuick luigis recovery up pretty bad.
Well, most of the characters that can fu´ck luigis recovery with projectiles are more or less ****d up against luigi anyway, so it really isn´t too bad.

[Tiller420]

Im not talking bout getting back to the ledge.........im talking bout AIRIAL ATTACKS

[UndrDog]

Well, most of the characters that can fu´ck luigis recovery with projectiles are more or less ****d up against luigi anyway, so it really isn´t too bad.
Samus is the best at it. And she can pwn Luigi pretty easily. WD = Missle in face. :( "Not I said she CAN pwn Luigi pretty easily". Just so you all dont think im trying to say that Luigi has a big disadvantage against Samus... >_>

[VilNess]

Originally posted by UndrDog
WD = Missle in face.

Huh? there´s some lag in this before and after. If luigi sees this he can try to WD and Sidestep trough the missile.
I´d say better player wins here, if the players are equal, It´s quite much on mindgames then.

Samus can recover easier against luigi than viceversa. Maybe the match is a little to Samus side...

[Sintenal]

Samus rapes Luigi. Samus has many things over luigi. Spam, range, priority, and can ledgeguard better vs Luigi than Luigi vs Samus. Luigi just cant seem to do much vs Samus. Her legs seem to beat out most of Luigi's move due to her range and priority.

[VilNess]

I´d say Luigi still has his speed advantage which is usually better than Most of Samus´s attack. Some punishing tactic might work due some lag of her moves (fire punch anyone?).
Then again, I´ve really haven´t played a good Samus.

[yomominacan]

nah, I think samus has all the tools to beat luigi, fast long range attacks, and projectiles to shutdown the wd

[VilNess]

i don´t still think Luigi against Samus is too hard. I mean, not all stages are FD. On those 3 plated stages Luigi can WD trough the stage very fast. Off course Samus can camp but in th long run isn´t that a bit risky?
I guess I´d have to play a good Samus...

[UndrDog]

Huh? there´s some lag in this before and after. If luigi sees this he can try to WD and Sidestep trough the missile.

Using Jasona as an example. He loves to missle cancel, run with the missle and dash at you just as the missle gets to you. best bet is to just sheild, but that gives you so much lag. dodging the missle will get you hit by the dash, and luigi's jump is a little slow and leaves your open for the upair, (drill), which kickback knocks luigi back alot. but in the end your right, if i where a little better im sure I'd find away around it. ^_^

edit: Please take note im one of those people who feel Samus is cheated in the tier list. Personally, I feel she should be top of the high tier, if not the Top. LoL

[VilNess]

yeah, Samus is an all-around good char with great projectiles not to mention abou her recovery which usually gives her nice advantages an many matchups.
I´d prolly try Bairing those missile cancelers, or powershielding when I get it down so I can do it at least 80% of the time.
And basically I´d play hit&run with luigi, because luigi can still evade good and I think Luigis ledgegame is quite good.
Samus has some aftelag in her attacks so I´d try to fake her out for some firepunches...
Just some ideas.

[Crash]

heres the problem with luigi's air game, mobility. his horizontal air movement is absolutely dreadful! the only way he can combo in the air with anything other than u air is by quickly getting to the ground then following with wd. btw, i play samus, and she rapes luigi pretty hardcore, but she has some problems. like luigi's u air to f air will hit almost every time because shes so floaty. and he can keep her from getting back on the ground easily once shes in the air. when i'm playing my friend's luigi, it'll usually be like i kill him on the first life with about 20% then he'll get me in the air, and start messing me up quite bad.

[VilNess]

yeah, that mobility isn´t too good. I usually stick to shorthopping so i can "land"slide and follow up.
Luckily luigi´s ground game is good and I like it quite much.

[Lord_Nikon]

Originally posted by UndrDog
Using Jasona as an example. He loves to missle cancel, run with the missle and dash at you just as the missle gets to you. best bet is to just sheild, but that gives you so much lag. dodging the missle will get you hit by the dash, and luigi's jump is a little slow and leaves your open for the upair, (drill), which kickback knocks luigi back alot. but in the end your right, if i where a little better im sure I'd find away around it. ^_^

I don't know if this has already been said, but Luigi's n-air can break a missile if properly used, and doesn't leave you very open.

Well, anyway, I like Luigi's air game, but he can own on the ground as well. I like to throw people backwards, since I normally play 4 player FFA's. The throw covers you from missiles and some other projectiles, and if you throw towards a wall, you can easily double f-air someone in one jump. Luigi's air and ground games are easily mixed. In fact, I think it's a requirement if you want to play better.

EDIT: There's a good combo against characters who fall for the d-air f-air, and that's to d-air then do a green missile. Sometimes it'll miss, somtimes it's weak, but when the misfires happen it's KO city. Of course, you have to be really fast or the character falls out of range...

[VilNess]

Hmm... Interesting greenmissile suggestion.
To me, that 1/8 change is way too low so if i connect a Dair/Fair I usually Landslide (almost the same as wavedash, but when landing from a jump) and chase the enemy to have a bigger change of getting a hit.

[Lord_Nikon]

Originally posted by VilNess
Hmm... Interesting greenmissile suggestion.
To me, that 1/8 change is way too low so if i connect a Dair/Fair I usually Landslide (almost the same as wavedash, but when landing from a jump) and chase the enemy to have a bigger change of getting a hit.

I normally walk, since when I do that, I have to edge guard, so I take it easy. Like I said, I don't WD, so you guys got me beat, but I'd like to say that I got the basic combat pinned down. I'm trying to use Mr. G&W, but all I do is piss my friends off with judgement 9, I guess I have to up my skills in ground combat... :D

[josh15162003]

You all know how Samus has a PWNING nair?.....Luigi's overpowers it and has priority. Try it out.

[Tiller420]

i wouldnt say that luigi sucks against samus....samus is a challenge for luigis who dont dodge much and i dodge all the time wit hluigi cause of his hit recovery and speed is great.

Also a simple shield works even while wave dashing so