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VilNess
08-29-2004, 08:27 PM
Hey ya Peach players.
I have attitude problems playing upper/top characters cause they donīt make me feel enough individuality.
But a while ago I picked up Peach and saw some huge amount of potential in her
aerial game. Yes, itīs nothing new to testament, but somehow I got interested in her float-attacking game.
I noticed (again, old information for you) that right after jumping holding x(jump button) and down on control stick Peach seems to start floating right away.
I discovered what you can do with her in this situation. You can hit in the direction where yer floating, like If you are going towards, you can do a fair.
Then I wanted to do a fair when I was floating backwards... well I succeeded in by usind C-stick.
But hereīs the problem: I need to push down on control stick, hold the X button pressed and press the C-stick!
In addition to this some fingers should be on R (because I use R instead of L)
for just in case. I ran out of thumbs!

Anyone else have similiar problems? should I just start learning to use L instead of R with Peach?
OR are these kinds of floating games even usable?
At least same styles of things work with Ness (my main) but without the floating part,

Fieari
08-29-2004, 08:43 PM
Once you start floating, you no longer need to hold down on the stick. That may help you considerably, as you can now use the control stick plus A to do all the directional airs. While in the air, I only use the C-Stick to throw turnips and other things... attacking can be done with no penalty using a mere direction+a.

On the ground, of course, you're going to need that C-Stick much much more. In fact, with float canceling, you'll often do an aerial, land (with the cancel) and use the C-Stick to smash immediately. You don't need two thumbs for this, but you will need to be fast.

VilNess
08-29-2004, 08:50 PM
Oh yeah, You were right about the control stick because how would I have moved even in the first place.

But you canīt float backwards, float and do a fair without using control stick, X (or Y) button and C-stick. This is where I had the trouble...

Peaches
08-29-2004, 08:50 PM
EDIT: yeah, I'mr retarded. I probably shouldn't take 15 minutes to write out a post.
Maybe I'll be of more use in the future.

Fieari
08-29-2004, 08:54 PM
Hm. I've never actually tried a fair while flaoting backwards... probably due to the very problem you've posted. If anyone has any suggestions for how to do this without growing a sixth finger, I'd be interested as well, as now that I think about it, I can see all kinds of places it'd be useful.

Peaches
08-29-2004, 09:00 PM
Ok, maybe I can be of use. The only way I think that's possible is to use the L button only for a few seconds.

In other words you have to hold te jump button with your index finger and flick the c-stick with your thumb.

Or you could do a more ineffective DI by tapping fair on the A button and quickly DI'ing. It won't work too well, but the fair has quite a bit of start up. I know it works well with dair.

VilNess
08-29-2004, 09:03 PM
This is propably even better vice versa. Float forwards and do a bair.
Also u airing floating seems to be cool but I donīt know does work in common play...
I practised at the training mode and discovered that floating backwards and forwards while bumming with her ar*se (bair, duh ;) ) could have uses.

edit: peaches: Your version of quick-flapping the fair and immediately going backwards probably has itīs uses due to the lack of hassling with your fingers.

Fieari
08-29-2004, 09:11 PM
Don't underestimate Peach's uair. It comes out rapidly, has decent priority (or at least it seems that way to me, might be just timing) and I've gotten a fair number of KOs with it too. Just make sure you're using it on someone coming down on you, not someone to either side or below. Even if it doesn't KO, it has a far enough knock that they'll be out of your hair, and you can even chase 'em if you have another jump squirreled away.

VilNess
08-29-2004, 09:19 PM
Iwas never underestimating it. What meant that could it be useful to float back/forwards and C-stick the uair to eliminate opponents advantage of DI (at least eliminate some of the advantage). or is the uair just too powerful for that kind of juggle? ... I should probably test it out.

Fieari
08-29-2004, 09:29 PM
I just tried it out. I can't seem to get any bair->uair combo to work. If they're physically in range for a bair, they are out of range for the uair. The uair just doesn't have a low enough hit zone.

VilNess
08-29-2004, 09:32 PM
how about floating back and forwards and bumming for edgeguarding? or just messing around with the fair, like going a little forward and press C-stick forward, then immediately after the hit zone appears float back to avoid shield grapping... might work.

edit: Im gonna go sleep now (clocks almost 4.00 am here) so I wonīt be replying immediately

Shadows
08-30-2004, 12:47 AM
Start Floating, Then start to float in the backwards direction that you want to go.

Let go of the Control stick and do the fair.

You Shouldve pulled off a backwards fair. =\

From what I discovered is that If you hold the control stick in one direction long enough when floating, you continue to float in that direction for a short time.

If anything, try Peach's Idea, Works just as great. ^_^

AlphaZealot
09-02-2004, 04:17 PM
Umm...there are two ways to do it.

You don't need to use the C-stick. Use the A botton and you can float backwards and do a fair using the control stick + A. Then a less easy way is to hold float (x/y) with your index finger and hit the c-stick using your thumb. Many of your probaly find that inconvienant, but I do it sometimes cause I use wierd hand placement occasionaly. IMO the first method is best however.