ness, lucas gimp

[Cosmo!]

if they are off the stage and will need to use their upB, fastfall off at them and get near them, then upB. the upB "upwards push" will cause ness+lucas to move upwards away from their PK thunder, making it so they cant hit themselves. then they will fall and die. "upB stall" causes no hitlag so they stay in their 3rd jump animation.

i suppose if you had more time you could also bucket the pk thunder.

[DYF]

haha thats cool im gonna have to try that. Ive been just using the bucket cause alotta times you can get a full fill of the PK thunder cause of the tail i believe, which can mean another stock. but the UP-B sounds alot quicker and harder to predict. Nice find =]

[chckn]

sounds good, how effective is bucketing the pkthunder though dyf?

[alphameric]

bucketing the pk thunder and/or tail will result in a full bucket which means (like every other full bucket) a free kill when you hit them with the last blob when releasing :D

[omegablackmage]

def a good idea, but would it be possible to absorb the whole thing leaving them to die? or does it just keep moving through you?

[Cosmo!]

bucket is better but i think is harder cause you need more time to get in the right spot I THINK but im not 100% sure. but I know for a fact the upB is amazing

[DYF]

nah you absorb the whole thing which is why its esp. useful for lucas cause you cant gimp him like ness by just jumping into it. just get next to them and throw out the bucket, chances are the bucket will out range their bodies so you wouldnt even need to be between them and the thunder

[6futs]

My best friend mains Lucas and I do this stuff all of the time. It's so wrong but feels so right :P. Needless to say, he doesn't play Lucas much anymore.

[omegablackmage]

this is pretty amazing. just tried it out, and it just feels unfair

[Cofor]

this is pretty amazing. just tried it out, and it just feels unfair

Poor Ness :(
Lucas has that rope snake and Zap Jump...

[Tails chao]

I've found that using uair is quite handy; too. If their PK Thunder is just about to hit, uair them from it and jump up with the bucket to get it.

[-NaPPy]

unfortunately a better lucas can zap jump or rope snake, but ness cant stand a chance :(