Help against a difficult Dedede

[Hillary]

I don't have any videos to show (sorry) but my friend really likes playing Dedede and gameandwatch doesn't seem to have the right range to be able to effectively defeat him. I've tried everything to get around his defense, but whenevr I jump in to attack or counterattack, he always gets me with a forward tilt or an up tilt. Very annoying.

Does anyone have any advice for this kind of matchup?

[dr.mario guy]

Bairs (that turtle can be annoying for the larger characters) Nairs and Dairs seem to keep Dedede at bay. Sometimes you can catch him with a Fsmash or a Dsmash but when he is in the air Fairs usually strike at him well. There are also some annoying UpB combos that can catch him off guard.

[VirtualVoid]

DeDeDe is a rather annoying matchup for GaW, even though he cannot chaingrab you he can camp you quite well.

Your best bet is approaching with a bair, it's enough for DeDeDe to lose even a tiny bit of shield for him to not be able to sheild grab your bair (The last hit will hit him).
Another good move against him is dsmash because of the range.
At low % you can juggle him by simply spamming utilts, when he is in the air he is much easier to deal with.
Again, I bet that your biggest problem is getting punished everytime you try to approach so just try to mix it up. Whrn you run towards him either grab him, bair him, or shorthop airdodge and land behind him.
When coming from above always land behind him.

I'll try to get some videos soon vs my friend's DeDeDe, until then good luck!

[That_Move_is_Key]

It seems to me like a shield grab would work too.

[HammerWang]

i recently played my friend whos main is dedede
how i managed with him is just to know dedede's range with his smashes n tilts
im pretty sure g&w can duck under dedede's side tilts, then u can manhole him for some spacing
to get at him i usually go into the air and get inbetween smash attacks and dair or bair, n occasionally nair

best way to beat ur opponent is to know ur opponent

[Hillary]

ok guys. Thanks for all the help.

[omegablackmage]

remember you can bucket the beam projectile waddle dee shoots out, that works well against spammers

[Yakt-NJ]

Air controlling your bair is a really effective tactic against large characters. As long as you can catch them with the tip of the turtle and air control out of shieldgrab range, you're golden. This increases your range substantially, and against a character with a **** ftilt and grab+dthrow as annoying as ddd's, this is a pretty important thing to focus on doing. The key is a subtle way to build damage, and the fair, fsmash, and dsmash should be saved for KOing.

[omegablackmage]

yeah the nice thing about the bair is that it is completely independent of where it hits on the hit box, the tip works just as well as the middle, making it a GREAT move to approach with because it has insane range

[Hillary]

The only problem with the bair is that his ftilt usually gets me first to aerial movement and the tip of the turtle will help a lot with that. I never thought of bucketting the waddle doo's beam either.

[omegablackmage]

well you could always fake him into thinking your going to back air him and then jump over into a dair