Ness not the same...

[Tyr_03]

Is anyone else slightly disappointed that Ness isn't the yoyo glitching, double jump cancelling, twitchy beast that he was in melee?

I miss it. He's so smooth now.

[Ademisk]

Pretty sure it's the same with every single character in this game.

[AsbestosBlatant]

I really prefer the way he is now, he's just a little beast.

[NessOnett]

his yoyos do something useful now, and his PKT2 has become one of the best killing moves in the game(if properly used), i'd say all in all it's a vast improvement.

[Tyr_03]

I don't know about a vast improvement. More like all the other characters got equalized. and the yoyo has really lost its mistique that it had in melee with the yoyo glitch. Look it up if you haven't seen it used before. And DJC added a lot to his game too. I miss them both. Either way I still like using him in Brawl but it's just sad I think.

[NessOnett]

I don't know about a vast improvement. More like all the other characters got equalized. and the yoyo has really lost its mistique that it had in melee with the yoyo glitch. Look it up if you haven't seen it used before. And DJC added a lot to his game too. I miss them both. Either way I still like using him in Brawl but it's just sad I think.

Of course i know what the yoyo glitch was, i wouldn't be able to call myself a Ness main if i didn't. But it was cheap and i refused to use it BECAUSE it was a glitch and i felt it unfair. Besides, i think that for most instances, useful yoyos that can't glitch are better than his melee ones(and people don't ***** when you use them). As for DJC, yeah, it's different for Ness but not necessarily worse...I am actually having a lot of fun getting used to it being out and think in the long run it can help make him a better character.

[AsbestosBlatant]

Honestly I don't see the lack of a yoyo glitch being any sort of a downside.

[Ademisk]

It is. If he still had it in Brawl he'd be craaaazy overpowered.


Also, Ness is INCREDIBLY improved. Don't even joke.

[Oceanborn]

Definitely. Ness was alright for me in Melee, but now in Brawl I'm actually considering maining him. His moves seem alot faster and I'm able to move quicker, not to mention string combos easier. And the fact that he has an alternate costume that's right up my alley is awesome. Yes, the pink hat with Mr. Saturn on the front. I'm so tempted to make a Mr. Saturn shirt. I already have the pink hat, purple socks and pink shoes, LOL.

Anyway, in short, Ness is far more awesome now compared to Brawl. In my opinion at least.

[thesage]

If Ness was able to equip thunder jacket in brawl he'd be the best character in the game.

What kinda sucks is that they nerfed his u-tilt and made his uair harder to hit with.

[Ademisk]

Really? I didn't notice. I guess they needed to nerf SOMETHING, amiright?

[Jono]

Really? I didn't notice. I guess they needed to nerf SOMETHING, amiright?

PK Flash was not enough. :(

[Ademisk]

Yeah....you know...cept they made it better.

[Oceanborn]

They nerfed PK Flash...? Maybe the animation. And speed. If by nerfed my mean sped up. :)

[Nimkip]

Does his bat seem shorter or is it just me. I guess that's the trade off for it being stronger, but it's also a bit slower and you have to sweetspot it for it to be a good KO move.

[Tyr_03]

Oh hey kind of random but stutter step is pretty decent with Ness. Just did some testing and don't feel like making a new thread. It doesn't give you as much of a range increase as some characters like Falcon but it's still something. Dash forward and then immediately C-stick to get an extra step before your bat.

[Ademisk]

Double stutter step(IE Pivot smashing) is better.

[NESSBOUNDER]

His bat lost a lot of its badassery since Melee unfortunately. I miss the "KACHIII" sound effect more than anything else.

But like everything else got way better. I also love being able to use the yo-yos and PK Flash as actual defensive options.

[Ademisk]

I love the new sound 1000% more.

[NESSBOUNDER]

But it's so puny! They should have made it ten times louder and with an echo or something. It's just not epic enough for a baseball bat smash. :(

I would have even preferred it if every time you hit with this move, an excited Japanese man appeared doing a 4koma reaction on the side of the screen shouting "HOOOOOOME WRUUUUUUNN!!"

[NESSBOUNDER]

...or even better...when you KO with this move, instead of the usual KO explosion from the side of the stage, you get a giant realistic picture of a schoolgirl doing a peace symbol but flipped at a 90 degree angle so she's coming out on her side, and instead of the KO sound, you get "ICHIBAHN!! NUMUH WUNN!!"

Now THAT'd just be enough for me to forgive the sound of the new bat.

[Arcade]

I like the new sound better. It sounds like your opponent got 100%, no-frills, no-johns owned up the face with a big wooden baseball bat. It's so satisfying.

[Ademisk]

Thank you, Arcade. I have nothing more to say.