New Discovery?

[Aevin]

I don't know if this is already known, but I noticed this while trying to Zap Jump with Lucas.

If you perform Ness's second jump simultaneously with a PK Fire, he'll kind of slide at an upward angle and release his fire when he reaches the height of his slide. That is, he'll begin his throwing animation, slide up a considerable height, and then fire. This strikes me as a trick that could be used to take opponents by surprise and hit with Ness's aerial PK Fire at an unexpected angle.

Any thoughts?

[Masky]

Yeah, you could do this in Melee too :p

[Aevin]

Ah ... Well, I wish I had known about it then, because I can certainly think of ways to incorporate this.

[Smashbros_7]

Yeah, you could do this in Melee too :p

Proof? Im pretty sure you couldn't.

To Aevin, can you provide a vid?

[Ademisk]

You could do it in Melee in a different way. I used it for ledge cancelled PK Fires, they were excellent.

[Hardcorenesser]

so Ness does have a zap jump? do you have a vid?

[Aevin]

It isn't a zap jump. It doesn't get him extra jumping distance. It's just a way of surprise attacking with PK Fire.

[Ademisk]

Yeah, you're misunderstanding him, definitely not a zap jump.

[Aevin]

The zap jump for Lucas skyrockets him upwards. This sends Ness at about a 45 degree angle upwards, similar to his second jump when you're steering it forwards.

[saratos]

I guess it depends in the timing. most of the time, for me, <B and a second jump with ness gives me a djc.

[Darth Ace]

That's a cool move, I need to remember that one. (I'm trying to set Ness as my 3rd Tier or Main or whatever the term may be.)