Are you really good at smash?

[mangodurban]

I just want to know how many marth players think they are actually good because they win all the time with marth. Me and my friend have been playing for years keeping nearly the same skill level. Lately I have been winning all our matches and my friend is now declaring he is going to main marth(just to win gamebattles). I won every character match up but he won every time he used marth by like 2 or 3 to 0. That proves marths gayness and hows he has little weakness. How can I win with every character match up but for some strange reason marth destroys me. oh yeah, because marths air moves are too strong and fast (open A, Jesus), his fsmash is spammable for a constant edgeguard that very few can beat. and does it help to point out that nearly all finals have a marth player( who usually wins). So back to the question? Are you marth mains really good at smash? Want to prove it? play me in brawl sunday with marth a few times and then start switching up your character. we'll video it, and I guarantee marth will be the only character you win every time, with any other character you can use we will havehave a extremely close game if not me winning 3-0. In promise not bad at the game so dont expect a easy win even with marth. If you must flame, please realize no matter how much you cry marth is still too powerful and has little to no counters. I just want to proove it in video by beating all other characters you possess.

[infernovia]

I have won with mewtwo before in Melee (against a sheik btw). But I have to say, I primarily fail at smash bros due to my severe limitations in playing it.

This isn't fair though. When you play as marth, you use a certain style and when you main him exclusively (I pretty have to if I wanna beat my friends) it can sometimes hinder your usage of other characters.

[mangodurban]

i can beat any character with any character unless marth is involved. even g&W vs. fox/shiek/falco/mario/ect. all me and my friends matches are even an extreamly skillful until marth games then he plays gay (marth style) and i am left to get open A'ed to Fsmash all game with too powerful of combos. its been proven I just want to let people see just exactly how much better they are simply because they use marth. Repeat: any other match up will be a very close game or me winning 3-0.

[Mew2King]

after marth hits you with fair, air dodge

then ur fine

camp him with projectiles, and when he gets near you block, then he gets raped

[Vaxxaruis]

play shiek or fox a good fox can beat marth i main marth and i would say i am very good player just play smart if this is brawl then camp and rape him with olimar XD

[stasis]

Everyone already knows Marth is a rigged character.

[Doodx]

maybe not i mean link was one of top tires wen melee came out i think till wavedash was introduced lol

[Gum]

I just want to know how many marth players think they are actually good because they win all the time with marth. Me and my friend have been playing for years keeping nearly the same skill level. Lately I have been winning all our matches and my friend is now declaring he is going to main marth(just to win gamebattles). I won every character match up but he won every time he used marth by like 2 or 3 to 0. That proves marths gayness and hows he has little weakness. How can I win with every character match up but for some strange reason marth destroys me. oh yeah, because marths air moves are too strong and fast (open A, Jesus), his fsmash is spammable for a constant edgeguard that very few can beat. and does it help to point out that nearly all finals have a marth player( who usually wins). So back to the question? Are you marth mains really good at smash? Want to prove it? play me in brawl sunday with marth a few times and then start switching up your character. we'll video it, and I guarantee marth will be the only character you win every time, with any other character you can use we will havehave a extremely close game if not me winning 3-0. In promise not bad at the game so dont expect a easy win even with marth. If you must flame, please realize no matter how much you cry marth is still too powerful and has little to no counters. I just want to proove it in video by beating all other characters you possess.

HA! Sure I'll take you up on your offer. fc exchange on Sunday?

[Cisne]

if your talking about brawl, you are 50% right. Marth´s 0 lag fair and dancing blade among others moves make him the "best" character. That plus a pro player equal you gettin destroyed with ease

[mangodurban]

I havnt played brawl yet, so I cant say anything about brawl marth. Ive played plenty of melee marth though and even playing a campy projectile stray or good fox moves still is kinda easy for melee marth. But who knows on brawl, its a new game. yeah gum ill send you my friend code when I get it. Do you have skype, it is the voice chat for smash or so Ive been hearing. I downloaded it and im going to buy a usb mic (5$) when i get brawl. its really good and I recommend downloading it. see you sun.

[NiRV7iQ]

Someone's bitter...

[RednaXale]

My friend plays Marth a lot but whenever we go to one of the Kingdom places I own him with just about any character because he is very bad at using throws. I just grab and back throw off the edge. He got so mad but I was like "hey, don't play Marth".

[shadydentist]

One player getting dominated by marth proves nothing.

A whole bunch of tournaments getting dominated by marth... thats something.

[hippochinfat!!]

Maining Marth makes you kill anyone now matter how much you suck.

[dgafbro]

I just want to know how many marth players think they are actually good because they win all the time with marth. Me and my friend have been playing for years keeping nearly the same skill level. Lately I have been winning all our matches and my friend is now declaring he is going to main marth(just to win gamebattles). I won every character match up but he won every time he used marth by like 2 or 3 to 0. That proves marths gayness and hows he has little weakness. How can I win with every character match up but for some strange reason marth destroys me. oh yeah, because marths air moves are too strong and fast (open A, Jesus), his fsmash is spammable for a constant edgeguard that very few can beat. and does it help to point out that nearly all finals have a marth player( who usually wins). So back to the question? Are you marth mains really good at smash? Want to prove it? play me in brawl sunday with marth a few times and then start switching up your character. we'll video it, and I guarantee marth will be the only character you win every time, with any other character you can use we will havehave a extremely close game if not me winning 3-0. In promise not bad at the game so dont expect a easy win even with marth. If you must flame, please realize no matter how much you cry marth is still too powerful and has little to no counters. I just want to proove it in video by beating all other characters you possess.

down B actually

[zapdose]

Don't feed the trolls.

[Irondrac666]

I don't feel that my maining marth, that i suck at smash. It maybe you who sucks at smash if you can't beat a marth. Marth is a character that requires finesse to win, and if your friends are kick your butt then maybe sir, you suck

[uremog]

someone just doesn't know how to fight marth.
how can you think that demanding that the challenger not use his main will prove anything? that makes no sense.
you don't think this has anything to do with the player?

[TLMarth]

I just want to know how many marth players think they are actually good because they win all the time with marth. Me and my friend have been playing for years keeping nearly the same skill level. Lately I have been winning all our matches and my friend is now declaring he is going to main marth(just to win gamebattles). I won every character match up but he won every time he used marth by like 2 or 3 to 0. That proves marths gayness and hows he has little weakness. How can I win with every character match up but for some strange reason marth destroys me. oh yeah, because marths air moves are too strong and fast (open A, Jesus), his fsmash is spammable for a constant edgeguard that very few can beat. and does it help to point out that nearly all finals have a marth player( who usually wins). So back to the question? Are you marth mains really good at smash? Want to prove it? play me in brawl sunday with marth a few times and then start switching up your character. we'll video it, and I guarantee marth will be the only character you win every time, with any other character you can use we will havehave a extremely close game if not me winning 3-0. In promise not bad at the game so dont expect a easy win even with marth. If you must flame, please realize no matter how much you cry marth is still too powerful and has little to no counters. I just want to proove it in video by beating all other characters you possess.
You are challenging Marth mains.
Why is Marth going to be the only character the MarthMain wins with? Because Marth is his main! Lol!
Seriously to test this you must find someone who mains ALL the characters.

down B actually
No he means that there are no CHARACTERS that counter Marth. It doesn't mean that Marth doesn't have a counter move.

[Warlock*G]

I play Marth pretty often (after Wario) and I win a lot of matches with him... but I'm not good at Smash. It's just that the people I've fought thus far are crappy. And I *still* need to time Marth's moves better. I think I'll go watch a couple of Marth vids right now.

Edit: And I'll read a guide to get started, if there's any.

Oh, and the counter's awesome, but I need to learn not to abuse it.

***This inane post full of non-content was brought to you by Warlock*G, as in Gorilla Warfare***

[theGreatDekuTree]

you are obviously joking or youre a noob, king Dedede is a marth counter, all of his moves have range on marth, and ddd has a disjointed hitbox.
i love playing marths, ive probably lost 2 times in total king ddd vs marth, he is my favorite to play.
i dont know if i want to play you though, i dont play cocky players, sorry.
if you actually made an intelligent thread i would, but this is a typical nooby "marth iz brok3n" thread.

[Emblem Lord]

All his moves?

Only f-tilt outranges Marth.

And Dedede's f-tilt sucks.

All Dedede has on Marth is the CG. That's it.

You fail hard and are a disgrace to Dedede players everywhere.

[Vash_Ericks]

Judging from the fact that you want the duels to make people "switch up" their character, I'm thinking that the problem is that you're friend has picked out a main and that you haven't yet because you want to find an "anti-marth". Then again, you left all this about a month ago and most likely won't read this since you hate marth and the marth forums, so I really don't know why I'm even writing this

[theGreatDekuTree]

All his moves?

Only f-tilt outranges Marth.

And Dedede's f-tilt sucks.

All Dedede has on Marth is the CG. That's it.

You fail hard and are a disgrace to Dedede players everywhere.


thats coming from a marth player, dont tell me i fail when you dont even know how to play ddd kid.

his ftilt sucks? it forces marth into the air, or to shield, youre just arguing, youre not having an intelligent conversation.
ddd has range on marth, just grow up & recognize that marth isnt "teh brokenz"

[Emblem Lord]

Kid?

I'm 20 years of age first off.

Secondly you are troll. You have proven this fact numerous times in many threads.

Dedede doesn't counter Marth. Heck he isn't even that good of a character. It's just easy to cmap with him and get in good damage by punishing people with his CG. Plus he lives lonjg thanks to his weight and reecovery. That's pretty much it. His moves set overall is pretty subpar and he isn't that great at killing.

F-tilt forces Marth in to the air.

What? Dude, if Marth does a SH fair DDD pretty much has to go on the defensive, since he has no move that can knock Marth out of the air quickly if it's well spaced. Shows how much you know.

Marth isn't broken. But he is better then Dedede that's for sure.

[orintemple]

Marth is the best character in the game, thats why your friend wins. Maybe he is also just good with Marth? You said you won with all the other characters, but not Marth. Maybe you are just not as good as him with Marth.

Marth isn't broken, there is no such thing in Smash. He can be beaten by a good camper anyday. Marth is generally pretty good against campers compared to most of the cast but he is still weak to them. He has weaknesses, just not many.

[uremog]

thats coming from a marth player, dont tell me i fail when you dont even know how to play ddd kid.

his ftilt sucks? it forces marth into the air, or to shield, youre just arguing, youre not having an intelligent conversation.
ddd has range on marth, just grow up & recognize that marth isnt "teh brokenz"

wow, way to come in and sling insults without even looking

[BacklashMarth]

Lol. This thread is something else. Marth is good but not perfect. I main him because it takes good strategy and timing to use him. He isn't the cheapest character (Pit vs. Marth anyone). Projectile spamming is hard for Marth to deal with so if you need an anti marth, pick almost anyone that isn't marth since lots of people have projectiles. Feel honored to lose to a good marth, i give kudos to your friend to beating u with him 100% accuracy (there are only 2 ways to do that and one of them involves fighting noobs). I would fight u but I like using Marth. You would complain even if i used Lucas, Wolf, or Link. People always say two things 1)marth is gay and 2)marth is broken. Ignorance and or bitterness are the root of both comments.

[Exile724]

Well asking someone if they are good with marth could get any kind of awnser no matter what the skill level really because it is mostly based on opinion, if you use marth I do not know if you are already but if you use him then it's just a marth battle more of a fair fight I would say.

In addition I use lucas as my secondary and I have a feeling he could put some hurting on marth so try using lucas if your good with him.

If you pull out somone like samus who has combo potential you may be a bit more effective, samus also can range attacks so that may help you a bit.


Sorry if I was not very helpful,
Exile

[shrinkray21]

Under this theory, every person who played fox or falco in melee wasn't very good b/c their character was the best in the game? right? Marth is best, but beatable - go with pit, olly, fox, falco..etc

BTW - DDD is a counter to marth - he's not better than marth, but he is a counter - he outranges with tilts and has a ranged attack.

[Emblem Lord]

No...DDD is not a Marth cou...

*sigh

**** it.

Why bother?

I tire of this.

[SummerObsession]

your right Marth is the best. All hail Marth.

[TRu_Ch40s]

i havent seen a marth win a single brawl tournament in florida

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

BAAWW. I can't beat my friends. Johns..

That's what I read.

^_^

[ellelaby's younger brother]

I've been practising Marth a little lately because I have been looking for a second main (after Falco). I find that when my opponents run from me, rolls and spaces, I have no way to get him except maybe a grab which is also hard. Does that mean campers that space really awesome like Falco would have an easy time against Marth?

[Kewkky]

So, all you're telling us, according to what I can see, is that you don't know how Marth works. Well, try playing against a couple of CPU's, use him for a bit and learn its moves, then just b****slap it w/ whoever you love, once you got Marth's speed down.

You SHOULD be able to win at the very LEAST 1 out of 1x10^100000 matches (if you say he's THAT unbeatable). Me, I don't really find him a hard opponent... The ones I find to be hardest are Olimar, MK, and ROB. Other than those, all the other ones give me little to no problem.



Oh, and... Just feel the need to say it... IT'S NOT THE CHARACTER, IT'S THE PLAYER

[BacklashMarth]

i havent seen a marth win a single brawl tournament in florida

This is just a thought but maybe all the Marths in your area just arent that good (not to be mean). That or the Pits there are much better (better meaning "campier"):chuckle:. But seriously, even if a marth doesn't win a tournament he usually lingers around the semi-finals.

Guy with Samus Avatar
Who do you use against marth. Are you talking 1 on 1? A good marth can usually handle Metaknight and ROB with a little patience and spacing.

[shrinkray21]

No...DDD is not a Marth cou...

*sigh

**** it.

Why bother?

I tire of this.

you obviously haven't played a good ddd - when did you become such a douche...all I see if you belittle kids b/c you have 3000 posts and think that makes you better than everyone...just seriously back off dude - its an online forum.

[Emblem Lord]

What?

Dude...do you know who I am? Also I have played good Dedede's, but I'm also looking at what both characters are capable of.

Also stop insulting me. It's uncalled for and childish.

I have explained countless times why Dedede doesn't counter Marth. I mean what exactly have you contributed to the Marth community besides trying to argue with me?

Also where the hell do you get off trying to say all I do is belittle people? WTF? You don't know me and you obviously aren't aware of the contributions I made for Marth back in the melee forums in the past couple of years. If you did then you would think twice before even saying something is dumb as "all I do is belittle kids because I have 3000 post."

You need to just stop. I belittle those who think they are better then me and THINK know more then and make an *** of themselves by trying to prove me wrong with little no factual evidence.

I belittle people like you.

Ignorant fool.

[shrinkray21]

What?

Dude...do you know who I am? Also I have played good Dedede's, but I'm also looking at what both characters are capable of.

Also stop insulting me. It's uncalled for and childish.

I have explained countless times why Dedede doesn't counter Marth. I mean what exactly have you contributed to the Marth community besides trying to argue with me?

Also where the hell do you get off trying to say all I do is belittle people? WTF? You don't know me and you obviously aren't aware of the contributions I made for Marth back in the melee forums in the past couple of years. If you did then you would think twice before even saying something is dumb as "all I do is belittle kids because I have 3000 post."

You need to just stop. I belittle those who think they are better then me and THINK know more then and make an *** of themselves by trying to prove me wrong with little no factual evidence.

I belittle people like you.

Ignorant fool.

What have I contributed to the Marth forums? Besides videos, assistance, and opinion...the difference here is that there are plenty of good players out there better than both of us, but I admit it, while you just argue about it. I'm willing to put videos out there and deal with people like you on a day to day basis who run around with your opinion and your new words that you found today to make yourself seem smart. If you really are so helpful, you will go post some vids and actually allow people to critique and learn instead of saying why YOU are so much better and have played great players and whatever argument to want to make today.

Oh and for the record...first thing I said in this forum.

DDD is a counter to marth, his tilts outrange and he has a ranged attack...seems like the first post I made had nothing to do with you.