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Mada90
03-05-2008, 06:36 PM
Actually it's even easier:if you manage to dair in mid-air and hit until the last drill,the opponent will be stunned and you'll have all the time to rest.
You don't have to land the dair tough, it must end in mid-air.
It's really easy to do,and at 70% or so it's a kill.
I don't know if I explained correctly,my english is not great,but i'm making a video,i'll post it soon.

EDIT:Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0D2n7O6WxA
Bowyer
03-05-2008, 08:26 PM
Its called an auto canceled dair, meaning that even though the dair wasn't completely finished, enough of it was so that when you land, all the lag is canceled. I was playing the other day and saw that when you short hop a dair, it auto cancels giving you an opportunity to rest, though I'm not sure if this is actually a combo because I didn't have the time to test it out.
Mada90
03-05-2008, 08:35 PM
Its called an auto canceled dair, meaning that even though the dair was completely finished, enough of it was so that when you land, all the lag is canceled. I was playing the other day and saw that when you short hop a dair, it auto cancels giving you an opportunity to rest, though I'm not sure if this is actually a combo because I didn't have the time to test it out.

I see,so that's how it works.
But yes it is a combo,i'm not sure if you can tech the dair,but i don't think so.
Here's the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0D2n7O6WxA
Ledger_Damayn
03-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Looks pretty interesting, if DI doesn't affect it. Plus, DI'ing from Rest could still result in your getting your butt whooped in the end if the KO doesn't happen.
RPK
03-06-2008, 01:23 PM
Well even if you can DI out of it <<<<33333 Even better then an up tilt to rest x3 Also, that Dair to rest isnt king's >.> But what ever ._.
Ch0zen0ne
03-06-2008, 10:18 PM
LMAO @ ppl thinking King invented everything... my mind goes to AOB, and Anden..
ResidentWaffle
03-06-2008, 10:26 PM
Every aerial to rest works with the new move decay system, mango did all of them to me :(
RPK
03-06-2008, 10:42 PM
fair to rest, and bair to rest? Everything to rest? <3

Hm...Since we can do that now, I need a list on how many times you gotta use X move before your able to use it to combo into rest...With the new Decay system, Ill need a lot more data on moves....Also lag frames too
Ledger_Damayn
03-07-2008, 05:52 AM
Random question:

Does it work on people swimming? Talk about uber-death with instant wake-up abuse.
RPK
03-07-2008, 05:40 PM
Probably...But why do that since they dont even have the ability to block while swimming ._.
Mada90
03-07-2008, 06:35 PM
LMAO @ ppl thinking King invented everything... my mind goes to AOB, and Anden..

That's because there's a video on youtube that calls this combo"King's new combo"or something like that.I'm kind of new to Jigglypuff,like 6-7 months.
Can anyone explain what's the decay system?
Shadow Nataku
03-07-2008, 07:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong. But I was pretty certain this combo has existed since SSB64. It was just easier to break and avoid in Melee.
Som
03-07-2008, 11:34 PM
I got D-air to rest in a match. Also on low percentages you can get back air into rest in the air (only tried against large characters).
CFMV
03-08-2008, 01:53 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong. But I was pretty certain this combo has existed since SSB64. It was just easier to break and avoid in Melee.

yeah that's why it didnt get used much in melee. it was too risky.
Tin
03-09-2008, 04:05 AM
That's because there's a video on youtube that calls this combo"King's new combo"or something like that.I'm kind of new to Jigglypuff,like 6-7 months.
Can anyone explain what's the decay system?

IIRC, the decay system is when attacks get weaker when they are repeatedly used. So less knockback = room to rest.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
NESSBOUNDER
03-09-2008, 04:28 AM
This looks very cool, but I'm afraid that tap/smash DI will ruin it completely.
OrlanduEX
03-09-2008, 04:36 AM
This looks very cool, but I'm afraid that tap/smash DI will ruin it completely.

Signed. DI f***s up multi-hit moves. Also, rest is so weak in Brawl, its not even funny. You actually have to rack up like 60-70% damage now to get a kill with it, and if they DI the rest, it will take even more damage considering how much more effective DI is now.
Mada90
03-09-2008, 10:35 AM
I've been testing it some more,and it looks like you can't DI enough out of the dair to avoid the rest,keep in mind that jigglypuff is bigger,and rest's hitbox is bigger too of course.
Of course you can DI the rest but well,you can DI (almost)every move in the game.
Bowyer
03-09-2008, 05:27 PM
yeah that's why it didnt get used much in melee. it was too risky.

It didn't get used in melee because the lag on the dair was too high.
NESSBOUNDER
03-10-2008, 04:25 AM
I've been testing it some more,and it looks like you can't DI enough out of the dair to avoid the rest,keep in mind that jigglypuff is bigger,and rest's hitbox is bigger too of course.
Of course you can DI the rest but well,you can DI (almost)every move in the game.

Did you smash/tap DI repeatedly?
Mada90
03-10-2008, 03:48 PM
Did you smash/tap DI repeatedly?

I'm quite sure I did,but i'm not very good with DI.Maybe someone can test it now that it's out in usa?
kutebabidear
03-18-2008, 05:29 AM
it's quiet hard as the opponent would normally DI >.<