Dark.Pch
03-02-2008, 06:04 AM
You know..Dark.Pch has gotten tired of his favorite nintendo character going through crap. Oh yes he has......*looks around in threads* So here in this thread I will make a guide to useing Peach in brawl and owning with her. But this is no regular guide. Its post of wisdom and common sense for people who fail to have them. This guide is simple. You read the post. if you follow and understand them, it will lead you to playing Peach at your best and not give a damm what other peoples opinions are. And the way things are around here. I demand this a sticky. Cause I know there will be people who will continue to cry about Peach like it has been going on for days. So read thise post from me and you will no longer be affected by haters and such and become great Peach players.
Pro: Who ever knew you turn out to be an azz all cause you cant use your favorite character like melee. How about this........we dont give a **** what you gotta say about her, we dont give a **** if she sucks, and we clearly dont give a **** for what you want or hear. So change your avatar, your sig and leave. You are just trolling around. You wanna win so bad, play someone else and GTFO! Tired of you ladies *****ing.......
Being creative does not only make the character play better, but you a better player as well. Doing the same **** and not switching up is not gonna get you the win. Its not gonna get you the win off the back, but you will do much better then playing like everyone else. People will get use to stuff and know how to respond to it. if your random, people wont know what to expect all the time.
Now if the other player did the same then thats fine. Anyones game if both on the same skill level. like me, I play random and creative. I could walk up to you, then out of no where, walk away. Why I do this? cause people will expect some kind of quick set up and expect me to play all fast....and I am just keeping it cool., they rush at me with some attack miss, and I get a free hit.
Or I can just Run/walk to you ..............and do nothing. Why did I stop in your face out of know where? what am I gonna do?, am I gonna walk away? wavedash back to a grab, air attack or run away? wait for you to throw the first punch. So many things I can do off the random at that moment. And my enemy has a split second to do something or see what is coming. Usually people get scared and side step. then there is my chance. or keep thier sheild up or roll. And I do it at random moments. Never with the same set ups. that makes it even harder for people to see what is comming.
Thats how I mess with peoples heads. I make you over think so I dont have too, flinch and I take it from there. Thats how I play creative. do random, retarded things, and sometimes I make it obvious. I let people see what I am trying to do. Like with my upsmash. and people still get hit. They are not use to when people think OUTSIDE the box nearly all the time. And that gives me the upper hand. Now this does not mean I win all the time. You dont hear me as a pro and scoring high in tournaments. But it does help me go even with some big names even if I am not on thier level. and make it so I can get the win off. And this is something you will never understand cause you always go by the bokk and want to do the same thing from melee to brawl and when it does not suit your taste you come here and cry about it and confuse peoples heads cause you failed. Not everyone thinks and plays like you. thats for sure in this game. so if you fail (dont care how long you played) dont give crap like this to people....who are playing Peach better than you are and know what the hell is up.
This is the style I created. I try to make my Peach like no one else. I create my own character. And I'm trying to teach up coming Peach players how to do the same. Some come to me and I shows them the mind of a Player, and how to toy with there heads just by being simple. No one thinks the same. They may have the same strats, but use them DIFFERENT. And since this is a DIFFERENT game, Thats how it will be based. Thats what I am showing and teaching new players (Peach players) so they can get better and not listen to your bullcrap you have been spreading around here. cause Yuna, WE ARE ALL TIRED OF IT!
You can cry and ***** and moan about this and that. But we dont care how wrong you as like you have been over and over. same goes for anyone else. WE.........DONT........CARE! You dont like Peach, dont play her, stop *****ing about this and that about her and GTFO! how hard is that? Look I'll guide you
Take your mouse, and click on brawl character discussion and go and click on a character you wanna win with or is good in your eyes and stay in there. Cause we are tired of this and its ticking people off. We clearly dont want you in here and had enough with your crying. So make like a damm turnip and throw yourself out.
I just wanna show that there is more people with my logic of the game. Here is a PM I got from someone maybe a hour ago or so.
"Hey, totally random right but I've been keeping up with the Peach Brawl Discussion and I admire the face that you are still planning to main Peach. I used Peach as my main in Melee and yeah she is very different in Brawl. I think it's admirable when someone works hard to improve a character that is not considered to be "godly."
Anyways, with the large amount of characters added to Brawl, I will be pushing several characters (perhaps like 3 or so) to tournament level, including Peach. I will be pushing to make her one of my mains and working with what she has because I do like her as a character. I've seen your videos and yeah it seems really difficult to use her now, but when you work for something, you'll get positive results in the end.
I'll look forward to playing with you on Wi-Fi and pushing Peach.
"
And look at this. its from a player who is a Falco main in melee.
[20:19] shad0wx1o1: in brawl you're going to have to teach me peach
[20:19] Dark Pch: Oh?
[20:19] Dark Pch: why you say that?
[20:19] shad0wx1o1: im gonna start using her a lot
[20:19] shad0wx1o1: she looks fun to play but i heard her Dsmash is nerfed
[20:19] Dark Pch: it is.......
[20:20] Dark Pch: but dont matter
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: is she overall nerfed or better?
[20:20] Dark Pch: she is still good
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: oh ok
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: i saw your thread thats why
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: ask Dark Pch about anything thread
[20:21] Dark Pch: Oh ok
[20:21] shad0wx1o1: yeah so it made me interested
[20:22] Dark Pch: Sweet
Just to set the record straight for those that may have it mixed up, I'm only against the debate about how you can just predict how Peach will be in the future and sayiong she is no good all cause they tried her a few times and then just got that idea. Not putting much work into a NEW game and letting it grow in the metagame.
I dont care if people quit her. Some people say Peach is fine. but this time around, she does not suit them. And they never once complained about her bad side. Cause when you win fights, you win using the good things about a character, not bad. But to give it a few tries then going saying stuff like she can never make it to the top, handle high game play and such is flat out foolish. And with something new. Those are nothing but opinions depending oh how the player felt about Peach. I'm doing just Peachy with her. I already got into fights that are so damm annoying and its hard for her to handle the fight. But I win them. and it took time, not a short while. And I am STiLL learning some stuff about her cause its hard to win. But I am winning matches so far. I say "SO FAR" cause other characters will be figured out. and then I will see if what I know by that time will keep me well prepared to win them. Or if I gotta try something new/work harder. And if that still does not work........THEN i'll be like" Man she cant do anything. I tried all this stuff and etc. Still cant hold my own"
Most people now just try a character a few times. then say "oh they suck, they cant do anything" Thats what they said about wario. I picked him up. A week later I was tearing **** up with Wario. All i did was learn about him. What he cant and cant do. understand the character fully. Some people did not even do that. And even today they still dont and gave these meaningless facts.
And thinking about tiers now is so funny. When some dont realize Peach is not the only character that got nerfed. you know how many characters are in this game? One thing wont work for every character.....I'm not gonna get into tier lists now cause its already known how long it takes to make an OFFICIAL one. Not opinionated so early and say this is it.
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Thats about it. My point over all that dont want to read all? Anything you say downgrading Peach and your negative comments about the future Peach in brawl is straight up invalid in this time period of Brawl being touched. Things take time, not a few tries and thing you have it all figured out. Anything else I dont care for. Switch characters and such, yadda yadda. Opinions is cool. Everyone is intitled to one. But dont make them seem like facts. Cause its obviously not .______.
I cant keep it in anymore......
I'm getting sick and tired of people crying. "Peach got nerfed, she sucks, she cant FC, waah waaa WAAH!!!"
WORK WITH WTF YOU GOT!You guys try her a few times and "man thats it, she sucks, i give up" Why she sucks. Cause you guys cant handle her right, are getting your azzes kicked? Who faults is that? its not Nintendo's, Or Peach. Its the damm player.
I tried her out and I'll say it hard to do damage with her. But I worked with what I had and did some damage. That simple. you really expect to be godly with her and do well after a few tries? Be for real man. Melee Peach was just the same. Peach sucks, blah blah blah. Thats what others were saying. Then they learned to use her fully. Now they saw how good she could be.
Use that same mentality for this game too. I was playing my friends Marth when I first played Brawl. He has the game. I dont. So he played it longer than I did obviously. I could never beat it. I would always lose. And since melee Peach was better, it was really hard. But I did not say "screw this crap, i'll use someone else." I kept working at it. then.......I finally figured out how to beat Marth. I learned. I worked at it. I used and did what I could do. plan and simple. I wonder just how much work you guys put into Peach. i bet it was not enough. New game, new engine, new way of play. Learn it or shut up!
Metaknight was another problem. But then I learned some stuff against him and I learned to beat him. And also learned not to fight him in small stages. Already I figured out how to beat 2 characters in brawl with Peach. and it took a while.
You cry about Peach.when others got it worst. look at freaking falcon...I feel sorry for that guy. Dont say she is bad or cant do anything cause YOU cant do jack. You have no full control over the character. Did not work hard enough. It may have taken me a while but I feel fine with Peach. And so does another Peach player here in N.Y. Name is Vanz. He raped With Peach. Even with all her problems......he stilled owned. never once cried about it.
If I have to be the only one to show what this princess has then so be it. Screw that. I'm doing just fine and learning. I am not gonna quit that easy. You know how long it takes people to learn how to ride a bike? They gotta get use to it all. Until they did and rode like a pro. Then once they did , they LEARNED tricks with the bike. use that same mentality with Peach.
So quit the b!tching. And work hard. You have to work harder now to own with the princess and people dont want that. so they quit. Oh well. Then Peach out and play someone else. But dont go saying she is horrible and all just because YOU cant do jack with her.
I had to get that off. My lil rant for this cold morning.
To get something right, you gotta get it wrong first. Remember that!
Peach for life b!tches! \m/ O_O \m/ Let it be known!
*exits stage right*
Ture.......
But mango won pound 3 > . >
*waits to get attacked with post that are against mine*
Also, it does not matter how Peach tourns out in brawl to me. She will be my tournament experience in brawl. I"m going Peach only and not counter pick. its my choice and how I set myself for playing this game just like I did with melee. Even if I dont win any, and I could counter pick to win one, I wont care. I play this game for fun, using my favorite character, and going as far as I can, even further than expected. Thats always been my mindset ever since I touched Peach in melee.
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So Peach got nerfed and Has her problems....and people are just thinking about quitting her or just gonna do it?
It would seem to take true skills and hard work for how Peach is now. Just be creative. Its not melee so there are lots of changes. For one you cant spam moves. Lose power. So for those that like to be Dsmash happy when you flinch and get scared, Think of something else now. They way I see it, you are now FORCED to play smart and more careful if you wanna win. No More cheap kills and stuff like that. It wont be giving to you. You have to work your azz off to win now, and use your head from start to finish.
Use whoever you want and go in the fray of battle people. Dont be pinned by what you see or hear. go by your own will.
Hey now. I choose to play and main only Peach. No one ever pinned me or made me do this. This my own doing. She is my fav nintendo character and I stick to her game no matter what. Some people need to know I am not your average player, and I dont do things like everyone else. I'm my own class and create my own way to play. I dont copy or watch vids and use what I see.
So I did this cause I wanted too :P
PM's from greatful people
"Hey, totally random right but I've been keeping up with the Peach Brawl Discussion and I admire the face that you are still planning to main Peach. I used Peach as my main in Melee and yeah she is very different in Brawl. I think it's admirable when someone works hard to improve a character that is not considered to be "godly."
Anyways, with the large amount of characters added to Brawl, I will be pushing several characters (perhaps like 3 or so) to tournament level, including Peach. I will be pushing to make her one of my mains and working with what she has because I do like her as a character. I've seen your videos and yeah it seems really difficult to use her now, but when you work for something, you'll get positive results in the end.
I'll look forward to playing with you on Wi-Fi and pushing Peach."
"Glad to see you still think Peach is good. I was a Peach main in melee and will definitely stick with her in brawl and its good to see some positive about her instead of all this negativity that has been going around. I see you live in NY. Hope you goto the Best Buy Tourny and own with Peach. I will be attending and playing as peach, but I most likely wont win because I haven't touched the game yet. Good luck if you do go!"
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Understand each post. Now if anyone wants to flame and start **** in here like the way the other threads, You leave me your name friendcode and character you use and think is the best and will lead you to victory. Then when I get both a wii and brawl when it comes out, I'll gladly kick your azz so you can stop your *****ing. some body has to do it, so I will. Other than than, none of that is valid unless you gonna prove me wrong in a fight! so I wont even argue with you just so you can have something to do with your time for fun. This is my guide to becomeing a good player over all. The more you cry, the more you will fail at this game. remember that. To get it right, you have to get it wrong first. It may get you 100 wrongs, to get 1 right. But once you do, thats 100 lessons already in the back. and you are ready to own.
Pro: Who ever knew you turn out to be an azz all cause you cant use your favorite character like melee. How about this........we dont give a **** what you gotta say about her, we dont give a **** if she sucks, and we clearly dont give a **** for what you want or hear. So change your avatar, your sig and leave. You are just trolling around. You wanna win so bad, play someone else and GTFO! Tired of you ladies *****ing.......
Being creative does not only make the character play better, but you a better player as well. Doing the same **** and not switching up is not gonna get you the win. Its not gonna get you the win off the back, but you will do much better then playing like everyone else. People will get use to stuff and know how to respond to it. if your random, people wont know what to expect all the time.
Now if the other player did the same then thats fine. Anyones game if both on the same skill level. like me, I play random and creative. I could walk up to you, then out of no where, walk away. Why I do this? cause people will expect some kind of quick set up and expect me to play all fast....and I am just keeping it cool., they rush at me with some attack miss, and I get a free hit.
Or I can just Run/walk to you ..............and do nothing. Why did I stop in your face out of know where? what am I gonna do?, am I gonna walk away? wavedash back to a grab, air attack or run away? wait for you to throw the first punch. So many things I can do off the random at that moment. And my enemy has a split second to do something or see what is coming. Usually people get scared and side step. then there is my chance. or keep thier sheild up or roll. And I do it at random moments. Never with the same set ups. that makes it even harder for people to see what is comming.
Thats how I mess with peoples heads. I make you over think so I dont have too, flinch and I take it from there. Thats how I play creative. do random, retarded things, and sometimes I make it obvious. I let people see what I am trying to do. Like with my upsmash. and people still get hit. They are not use to when people think OUTSIDE the box nearly all the time. And that gives me the upper hand. Now this does not mean I win all the time. You dont hear me as a pro and scoring high in tournaments. But it does help me go even with some big names even if I am not on thier level. and make it so I can get the win off. And this is something you will never understand cause you always go by the bokk and want to do the same thing from melee to brawl and when it does not suit your taste you come here and cry about it and confuse peoples heads cause you failed. Not everyone thinks and plays like you. thats for sure in this game. so if you fail (dont care how long you played) dont give crap like this to people....who are playing Peach better than you are and know what the hell is up.
This is the style I created. I try to make my Peach like no one else. I create my own character. And I'm trying to teach up coming Peach players how to do the same. Some come to me and I shows them the mind of a Player, and how to toy with there heads just by being simple. No one thinks the same. They may have the same strats, but use them DIFFERENT. And since this is a DIFFERENT game, Thats how it will be based. Thats what I am showing and teaching new players (Peach players) so they can get better and not listen to your bullcrap you have been spreading around here. cause Yuna, WE ARE ALL TIRED OF IT!
You can cry and ***** and moan about this and that. But we dont care how wrong you as like you have been over and over. same goes for anyone else. WE.........DONT........CARE! You dont like Peach, dont play her, stop *****ing about this and that about her and GTFO! how hard is that? Look I'll guide you
Take your mouse, and click on brawl character discussion and go and click on a character you wanna win with or is good in your eyes and stay in there. Cause we are tired of this and its ticking people off. We clearly dont want you in here and had enough with your crying. So make like a damm turnip and throw yourself out.
I just wanna show that there is more people with my logic of the game. Here is a PM I got from someone maybe a hour ago or so.
"Hey, totally random right but I've been keeping up with the Peach Brawl Discussion and I admire the face that you are still planning to main Peach. I used Peach as my main in Melee and yeah she is very different in Brawl. I think it's admirable when someone works hard to improve a character that is not considered to be "godly."
Anyways, with the large amount of characters added to Brawl, I will be pushing several characters (perhaps like 3 or so) to tournament level, including Peach. I will be pushing to make her one of my mains and working with what she has because I do like her as a character. I've seen your videos and yeah it seems really difficult to use her now, but when you work for something, you'll get positive results in the end.
I'll look forward to playing with you on Wi-Fi and pushing Peach.
"
And look at this. its from a player who is a Falco main in melee.
[20:19] shad0wx1o1: in brawl you're going to have to teach me peach
[20:19] Dark Pch: Oh?
[20:19] Dark Pch: why you say that?
[20:19] shad0wx1o1: im gonna start using her a lot
[20:19] shad0wx1o1: she looks fun to play but i heard her Dsmash is nerfed
[20:19] Dark Pch: it is.......
[20:20] Dark Pch: but dont matter
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: is she overall nerfed or better?
[20:20] Dark Pch: she is still good
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: oh ok
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: i saw your thread thats why
[20:20] shad0wx1o1: ask Dark Pch about anything thread
[20:21] Dark Pch: Oh ok
[20:21] shad0wx1o1: yeah so it made me interested
[20:22] Dark Pch: Sweet
Just to set the record straight for those that may have it mixed up, I'm only against the debate about how you can just predict how Peach will be in the future and sayiong she is no good all cause they tried her a few times and then just got that idea. Not putting much work into a NEW game and letting it grow in the metagame.
I dont care if people quit her. Some people say Peach is fine. but this time around, she does not suit them. And they never once complained about her bad side. Cause when you win fights, you win using the good things about a character, not bad. But to give it a few tries then going saying stuff like she can never make it to the top, handle high game play and such is flat out foolish. And with something new. Those are nothing but opinions depending oh how the player felt about Peach. I'm doing just Peachy with her. I already got into fights that are so damm annoying and its hard for her to handle the fight. But I win them. and it took time, not a short while. And I am STiLL learning some stuff about her cause its hard to win. But I am winning matches so far. I say "SO FAR" cause other characters will be figured out. and then I will see if what I know by that time will keep me well prepared to win them. Or if I gotta try something new/work harder. And if that still does not work........THEN i'll be like" Man she cant do anything. I tried all this stuff and etc. Still cant hold my own"
Most people now just try a character a few times. then say "oh they suck, they cant do anything" Thats what they said about wario. I picked him up. A week later I was tearing **** up with Wario. All i did was learn about him. What he cant and cant do. understand the character fully. Some people did not even do that. And even today they still dont and gave these meaningless facts.
And thinking about tiers now is so funny. When some dont realize Peach is not the only character that got nerfed. you know how many characters are in this game? One thing wont work for every character.....I'm not gonna get into tier lists now cause its already known how long it takes to make an OFFICIAL one. Not opinionated so early and say this is it.
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Thats about it. My point over all that dont want to read all? Anything you say downgrading Peach and your negative comments about the future Peach in brawl is straight up invalid in this time period of Brawl being touched. Things take time, not a few tries and thing you have it all figured out. Anything else I dont care for. Switch characters and such, yadda yadda. Opinions is cool. Everyone is intitled to one. But dont make them seem like facts. Cause its obviously not .______.
I cant keep it in anymore......
I'm getting sick and tired of people crying. "Peach got nerfed, she sucks, she cant FC, waah waaa WAAH!!!"
WORK WITH WTF YOU GOT!You guys try her a few times and "man thats it, she sucks, i give up" Why she sucks. Cause you guys cant handle her right, are getting your azzes kicked? Who faults is that? its not Nintendo's, Or Peach. Its the damm player.
I tried her out and I'll say it hard to do damage with her. But I worked with what I had and did some damage. That simple. you really expect to be godly with her and do well after a few tries? Be for real man. Melee Peach was just the same. Peach sucks, blah blah blah. Thats what others were saying. Then they learned to use her fully. Now they saw how good she could be.
Use that same mentality for this game too. I was playing my friends Marth when I first played Brawl. He has the game. I dont. So he played it longer than I did obviously. I could never beat it. I would always lose. And since melee Peach was better, it was really hard. But I did not say "screw this crap, i'll use someone else." I kept working at it. then.......I finally figured out how to beat Marth. I learned. I worked at it. I used and did what I could do. plan and simple. I wonder just how much work you guys put into Peach. i bet it was not enough. New game, new engine, new way of play. Learn it or shut up!
Metaknight was another problem. But then I learned some stuff against him and I learned to beat him. And also learned not to fight him in small stages. Already I figured out how to beat 2 characters in brawl with Peach. and it took a while.
You cry about Peach.when others got it worst. look at freaking falcon...I feel sorry for that guy. Dont say she is bad or cant do anything cause YOU cant do jack. You have no full control over the character. Did not work hard enough. It may have taken me a while but I feel fine with Peach. And so does another Peach player here in N.Y. Name is Vanz. He raped With Peach. Even with all her problems......he stilled owned. never once cried about it.
If I have to be the only one to show what this princess has then so be it. Screw that. I'm doing just fine and learning. I am not gonna quit that easy. You know how long it takes people to learn how to ride a bike? They gotta get use to it all. Until they did and rode like a pro. Then once they did , they LEARNED tricks with the bike. use that same mentality with Peach.
So quit the b!tching. And work hard. You have to work harder now to own with the princess and people dont want that. so they quit. Oh well. Then Peach out and play someone else. But dont go saying she is horrible and all just because YOU cant do jack with her.
I had to get that off. My lil rant for this cold morning.
To get something right, you gotta get it wrong first. Remember that!
Peach for life b!tches! \m/ O_O \m/ Let it be known!
*exits stage right*
Ture.......
But mango won pound 3 > . >
*waits to get attacked with post that are against mine*
Also, it does not matter how Peach tourns out in brawl to me. She will be my tournament experience in brawl. I"m going Peach only and not counter pick. its my choice and how I set myself for playing this game just like I did with melee. Even if I dont win any, and I could counter pick to win one, I wont care. I play this game for fun, using my favorite character, and going as far as I can, even further than expected. Thats always been my mindset ever since I touched Peach in melee.
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So Peach got nerfed and Has her problems....and people are just thinking about quitting her or just gonna do it?
It would seem to take true skills and hard work for how Peach is now. Just be creative. Its not melee so there are lots of changes. For one you cant spam moves. Lose power. So for those that like to be Dsmash happy when you flinch and get scared, Think of something else now. They way I see it, you are now FORCED to play smart and more careful if you wanna win. No More cheap kills and stuff like that. It wont be giving to you. You have to work your azz off to win now, and use your head from start to finish.
Use whoever you want and go in the fray of battle people. Dont be pinned by what you see or hear. go by your own will.
Hey now. I choose to play and main only Peach. No one ever pinned me or made me do this. This my own doing. She is my fav nintendo character and I stick to her game no matter what. Some people need to know I am not your average player, and I dont do things like everyone else. I'm my own class and create my own way to play. I dont copy or watch vids and use what I see.
So I did this cause I wanted too :P
PM's from greatful people
"Hey, totally random right but I've been keeping up with the Peach Brawl Discussion and I admire the face that you are still planning to main Peach. I used Peach as my main in Melee and yeah she is very different in Brawl. I think it's admirable when someone works hard to improve a character that is not considered to be "godly."
Anyways, with the large amount of characters added to Brawl, I will be pushing several characters (perhaps like 3 or so) to tournament level, including Peach. I will be pushing to make her one of my mains and working with what she has because I do like her as a character. I've seen your videos and yeah it seems really difficult to use her now, but when you work for something, you'll get positive results in the end.
I'll look forward to playing with you on Wi-Fi and pushing Peach."
"Glad to see you still think Peach is good. I was a Peach main in melee and will definitely stick with her in brawl and its good to see some positive about her instead of all this negativity that has been going around. I see you live in NY. Hope you goto the Best Buy Tourny and own with Peach. I will be attending and playing as peach, but I most likely wont win because I haven't touched the game yet. Good luck if you do go!"
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Understand each post. Now if anyone wants to flame and start **** in here like the way the other threads, You leave me your name friendcode and character you use and think is the best and will lead you to victory. Then when I get both a wii and brawl when it comes out, I'll gladly kick your azz so you can stop your *****ing. some body has to do it, so I will. Other than than, none of that is valid unless you gonna prove me wrong in a fight! so I wont even argue with you just so you can have something to do with your time for fun. This is my guide to becomeing a good player over all. The more you cry, the more you will fail at this game. remember that. To get it right, you have to get it wrong first. It may get you 100 wrongs, to get 1 right. But once you do, thats 100 lessons already in the back. and you are ready to own.