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DKpunch!
02-24-2008, 06:27 PM
Recently, I've been using Mario more and more, thanks to the "useless" F.L.U.D.D. which my friends keep making fun of. After using him for about a week, I've come up with some interesting uses of it.

Some of the bigger characters have some attacks which have a ton of lag, or charge-up time. For example, Ike's Eruption attack. I killed Ike the other day right when he started charging Eruption while I ran at him; I quickly stopped and pulled out F.L.U.D.D., and it pushed Ike straight off of the edge. He didn't have enough time to finish the attack and recover.

Another example: I was fighting against a Kirby when he attempted to use the rock-fall on me near the edge. I quickly dodged then pulled out F.L.U.D.D. again, and within half-second Kirby was rock-falling to his death off the edge.

Basically, it's incredibly useful when your opponent is near the edge, and he thinks you're going to dash attack/SHFF him, I'd guess nearly 70% of the time they pull out a shield... I usually stop for a second (mind games ftw,) then pull out the F.L.U.D.D. right when they drop the shield and respond with an attack, which ends up causing them to fall to their doom in the middle of an attack. Or, if they're expecting a grab, fireball to F.L.U.D.D. works pretty well too (or cape to F.L.U.D.D.)

It doesn't ALWAYS work, but it works very well for getting your opponent off of the edge, which is something Mario loves with his spike. It's great for mindgames, despite doing no damage. All-in-all, I'm seconding Mario now, thanks to F.L.U.D.D.

stingers135
02-24-2008, 06:32 PM
Interesting...

Thanks for the applications! Mind getting a few videos to show us some examples though? The first one against Ike in particular is something I'd like to see.

stingers135
02-24-2008, 06:32 PM
edit: augh double post :(

I guess I'll try to add something new...uhh...<_<

I've got nothin.

GoldSon
02-24-2008, 06:50 PM
Great job. Any videos for a visual would be great ^_^

fazares
02-25-2008, 12:49 PM
All-in-all, I'm seconding Mario now, thanks to F.L.U.D.D.
hehe....u should maining mario for other better reasons...go check this thread....http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=142771

shinhed-echi
02-25-2008, 12:51 PM
Question: Does the FLUDD push Fox while shining?

fazares
02-25-2008, 12:52 PM
i guess its possible...afterall^^

LittleKey
02-25-2008, 01:02 PM
I'm sure it would, I haven't played Brawl yet, but I don't see any reason why it wouldn't do that.

TheLake
02-25-2008, 01:04 PM
Cool find brah...cool find

Lenvil
02-26-2008, 02:16 PM
dr. mario is better. RIP

DKpunch!
02-26-2008, 06:12 PM
NEW UPDATE

The F.L.U.D.D.'s direction can be controlled after release, so it doesn't just go straight out. You can aim it up, down, wherever, making it a MUCH better edgeguarding technique.

SK8orDIE
02-26-2008, 06:22 PM
hehe....u should maining mario for other better reasons...go check this thread....http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=142771

It can't hurt to have people exploring different nuances of a character. That's how you expand the public knowledge base.

Great find, by the way. If this use of FLUDD can be applied consistently, it will fit in nicely with the passive, devious nature of the cape edgeguard. Please post some videos so we can see FLUDD used effectively against some different characters!

Crazy_mofo213
02-27-2008, 02:02 PM
That's pretty cool and could add some strategy to slow opponents with lag but i'm still kind of dissapointed that they replaced Mario's tornado with fludd

mellowD
02-29-2008, 04:45 AM
errr...the fludd....>:(

Giga Hand
02-29-2008, 05:01 AM
Flash Liquidizer Ultra Dousing Device > Mario's other moves combined.

Just my opinion, haven't played it yet.

Mike Hawk
02-29-2008, 07:00 AM
i've played around with fludd as well and found some more proactive ways to use it.

i've killed a Ganondorf at > 20% using fludd, i got video but no capture card so if someone wants me to post the video as a brawl file i wont mind.

you can use fludd to stall people while they do their air attack and then counter this is quite fun to do it also makes people coming back from the stage mind their position and leave themselves open for a cape. basically use fludd as a Cape companion.

i need to post some videos bad.

Giga Hand
02-29-2008, 07:58 AM
i need to post some videos bad.

No, you need to post some videos good. That way, we'll see what this particular "Gaddget" can do.

CO18
02-29-2008, 11:34 AM
Nice find man. This is cool. I might considering usng Mario as my second again...

Gunsol
02-29-2008, 04:04 PM
A cape companion you say? I never even thought of that. Good, good. Cookies for you. ^_^

Vidd
02-29-2008, 04:42 PM
Thanks for some positive input on flood. I can see uses for it now.

Monk/Honkey/Banana
02-29-2008, 05:10 PM
I think I should bring this up if it hasn't already been brought up...

FLUDD can push back invulnerable people

Vidd
02-29-2008, 06:25 PM
So say Bowser does his down B and you shield-roll it. You could push him off the stage? Nice.

Rhubarbo
03-01-2008, 12:08 AM
The FLUDD is awesome! It's a shame that Squirlte has the same attack...

skullkidd
03-01-2008, 12:56 AM
I hate FLUDD.
Anyway, would it be useful to use on Ness or Lucas while they might be PK Thundering/Freezing/Flashing, when their in that constipated position?

What about when you shoot the water during an opponent's ^B? Like what happens when Snake is Cyphering on stage, can you use the water to steer him back away from the edge?

Mike Hawk
03-01-2008, 01:47 AM
with cypher you actually give snake some vertical gain as for ness and lucas i've yet to try them but i can tell you that if you are in a constipated position and you get fludded you will die

RazeveX
03-01-2008, 05:00 AM
NEWS FROM SOMEONE WHO TESTED IT:

I tried to use it on fox while shining.

He doesnt move.

I tried twice, then my game crashed...

it was probably one in a million though.

WoodyWiggins
03-02-2008, 01:31 AM
In team battle, does the F.L.U.D.D. push teammates as well, or simply go through teammates?

Vidd
03-02-2008, 07:14 AM
It would only push them with "Friendly Fire" on.

A2ZOMG
03-02-2008, 07:35 AM
dr. mario is better. RIPWTF get out! Dr. Mario is not as good as Mario (don't believe the tiers on that one. Mario is technically superior by a bit used correctly. People just don't give him enough credit competitively). And the plumber owns. The Doc's ONLY game unfortunately sucks.

WoodyWiggins
03-02-2008, 03:11 PM
It would only push them with "Friendly Fire" on.

Oh. It'd be cool if Mario could push allies with a charged smash towards the edge of a stage. . .

Cosmonaut213
03-04-2008, 05:26 PM
thanks for the find man...I was sticking to mario from the beginning Now I this determines me even more when I play with Mario as my main