Zero Suit Samus in...

[FlatSoda]

The GameStop Midnight Launch Tournament.
Since the first round is only a minute long verses, I've read in the general brawl section that everyone plans to choose Ike or someone with a great recovery.

If I'm not mistaken, items will be on. The Items you have to look out for are the super mushrooms, and well....anything to help keep on the stage.

I've been watching tons of ZSS videos, and it seems she's a great match against Ike. She starts off with some items to chuck. That's a great start as well, and she doesn't necessarily have the greatest recovery but she's got some punch to it.


Who feels she'll be a great choice in the first round?

[Kuroneko]

From videos of ZSS vs Ike, she seems to have the advantage if you can do Claw combos. You've probably seen them but their under 1v1 or something of that nature. Over all I heard she lacks priority. I say use her if you like her, but don't expect her to have the edge on everyone. (from what I seen, she has problems with meta knight because her grab combos into aerials won't hit him. He is also as popular as Ike, so many people will probably play him.)

[Naybewon]

I don't know if I'll even end up playing in the tournament. I'd rather just buy the game and go play X_X

[Hailzeon0079]

Yeah I definitly think zss is a good ike matchup, for a good projectile and great range. Metanight does seems like he could pose a problem, but there is always the flip kick spike if he trys to edgeguard you >_>

[FlatSoda]

Yeah, She does have some drawbacks. Of course, if the matchup is against a metaknight, i'll have to make a guess itf they're just a casual player.

[.kR0]

Meta isn't too bad as long as you space your Forward B. You can kill him really easily with upairs, and your downB recovery can sometimes spike a edgeguarding meta (although it'll be highly unlikely).

Never, EVER fight Ike in battlefield as the platforms will decimate you if you are ever above him. Zamus's dair is almost completely useless against Ike. She doesn't have any good moves that covers below her.

Ike's jabs are ridiculous, and a good Ike player would rely on the jab combo to rack up dmg and kill you with a bair/upair. Always watch out if he does nair, since he can instantly do a jab combo upon landing with 0 lag.

Against Ike, I usually counterpick with Lucas and camp him with PKfires. Zamus's blaster isn't too campable and can be punished.

[0RLy]

You could always use Samus and drop your suit after your 1st kill for a mobility boost. Or transform after you ARE killed since Zamus is great at finishing with plasma whip. If your opponent SD's though, it's game over for you.

What do you think? Begin the game as Samus and fight. If having troubles switch to Zamus.

[DeliciousCake]

You could always use Samus and drop your suit after your 1st kill for a mobility boost. Or transform after you ARE killed since Zamus is great at finishing with plasma whip. If your opponent SD's though, it's game over for you.

What do you think? Begin the game as Samus and fight. If having troubles switch to Zamus.

Having attempted to drop my armor pieces mid-battle as Samus, I HIGHLY recommend that you DO NOT DO THIS. You waste valuable time (aside from the fact that its almost impossible to do on the first try), and the transition animation is about 3-4 seconds, leaving your opponent to just stand and charge a smash waiting for you.

[hippochinfat!!]

Ike has a horrible recovery.

[FlatSoda]

yeah, ike does. I was thinking of just edge gaurding and chucking armor at him until he can't recover. :)

[Tristan Darkshade]

You could always use Samus and drop your suit after your 1st kill for a mobility boost. Or transform after you ARE killed since Zamus is great at finishing with plasma whip. If your opponent SD's though, it's game over for you.
If your opponent selfdestructs, you'll gain a point. There's a lot of videos, and it seems you only need to land one hit period to gain a point when the opponent dies. At least in a 1-vs-1 scenario. Basically it's whoever hit the opponent last before said opponent's death. That'll show 'em

[gamer8]

I don't really do tournaments though.

[FlatSoda]

Does zss have invincibility frames during the change?

[Naybewon]

Does zss have invincibility frames during the change?

Yeah but she's severely punishable RIGHT after, much like the Sheik/Zelda change.

I still can't decide if I should use Zelda or ZSS for my 1 minute match...

[Gum]

items on, 4 player brawl, wiimotes only, time limit, built in tourney system. pretty gay all in all...but im still gonna go ZS and just evade my *** off.

[Kips]

Well the Armor Pieces pretty much destroy anyone who isn't Zelda in my opinion, just because I saw a video of Zelda reflecting armor pieces and actually racking up damage instead of Zamus doing the damage-racking. Yeesh!

[.kR0]

I don't use the armor piece because
1. Just a personal feeling that I start with an unfair advantage
2. Good opponents can use the suit against you and you'll probably end up hurt more than him/her
3. Makes the first stock really boring to watch

You SHOULD use the suit though, its broken as ****.