View Full Version : Short Hop Double Arrow by MellowD
Darkmusician
02-17-2008, 07:47 AM
Toon Link is really cool. And my good friend MellowD from Hawaii wanted me to post this since this new tactic of Toon Link hasn't been discussed yet.
Short Hop Double Arrows.
Here are two vids of MellowD and his Toon Link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpv5GAbrTk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzr49Jt9AM
What are you thoughts and comments on what could be a new tactic with Toon Link?
cynar
02-17-2008, 10:44 AM
It's just short hopping and shooting arrows, nothing new.
It's just short hopping and shooting arrows, nothing new.
on top of that hes shooting the second arrow on the ground..
kobefox2485
02-17-2008, 10:53 AM
the game looks so insane!!! that sh arrow is like a falco short hop laser
Chaos27
02-17-2008, 04:09 PM
on top of that hes shooting the second arrow on the ground..
If you played the game then you'd know the difference between just shooting an arrow in the air and the ground. When you do this it the second arrow comes out faster than the animation of shooting it on the ground. Kinda hard to explain but it kinda is like a short hop double laser. The videos might be hard to see the short hop double arrows because he makes some mistakes where he does a regular air and ground arrow.
KangKyu
02-17-2008, 04:16 PM
Amazing tactic! I could use this a lot!
Darkmusician
02-17-2008, 04:20 PM
If you played the game then you'd know the difference between just shooting an arrow in the air and the ground. When you do this it the second arrow comes out faster than the animation of shooting it on the ground. Kinda hard to explain but it kinda is like a short hop double laser. The videos might be hard to see the short hop double arrows because he makes some mistakes where he does a regular air and ground arrow.
I'll record more of Gene's Toon Link next time. Only had about 2-3 matches of his T. Link so I was unable to make like a tactics video. But next time for sure. And yes I agree that the second arrow comes out faster when timed right.
greenblob
02-17-2008, 04:21 PM
Does that mean arrows auto-cancel?
Short hop arrow? SHA? There doesn't seem to be much lag after he shoots an arrow. Thats a REALLY good thing. Toon Link seems to have the most meta games so far out of ANY character. Keep em coming!
darkshy
02-17-2008, 07:41 PM
That actually looks good. I don't know why it wouldn't be used.
Ping_Ping
02-17-2008, 09:15 PM
2:26 on the second vid shows some good dbl arrows way to rep hawaii guys ^^
Kizzu-kun
02-17-2008, 09:18 PM
Wow, he trained the SHDA, I can't do this perfectly.
Very nice. xD~
Stimpy
02-18-2008, 04:02 AM
Def going to try to add it to my playing style once I get the game...
mellowD
02-19-2008, 10:54 AM
eyy its kizzu
maining the t.link eh?
still room for marth up derrr?
Kizzu-kun
02-19-2008, 12:25 PM
eyy its kizzu
maining the t.link eh?
still room for marth up derrr?
Yo! XD
Yeah, I was just waiting for him for play. o/
I'm going to training/see Marth when I get the game.
xD~
mellowD
02-19-2008, 04:04 PM
thats cool he plays almost the same imo
but yea man love yo vids
ODIN787
02-19-2008, 04:32 PM
nice videos ,rating: 9/10
Great techniquie, looks really useful.
Habanero Pepper
02-20-2008, 12:17 PM
lol, I love the Piggie Victory Pose!!!
I had a hard time seeing any second arrow shoot out while still in the air though. ANd does the SHDA also cancel before landing???
Sunblock
02-20-2008, 12:31 PM
For christs sake, I wished my skill would be even near to anything of that :/ Guess I should buy a GC-controller, too...
Niko90
02-20-2008, 07:47 PM
Very very nice. Seems to be a pretty effective technique.
mellowD
02-20-2008, 09:27 PM
lol, I love the Piggie Victory Pose!!!
I had a hard time seeing any second arrow shoot out while still in the air though. ANd does the SHDA also cancel before landing???
well its basically the same concept of shdl for fox but the thing is for toon link it only works before landing not in mid air
srry about the inconvenience
i plan to make a demonstration video to further show the technique :/
Smashbros_7
02-20-2008, 09:35 PM
Nice vids.
KangKyu
02-20-2008, 11:18 PM
Amazing
tactic
18 das til brawl guys! =DD
Sunblock
02-21-2008, 01:57 PM
Tried this technique a bit and get used to it more and more, altough it's a bit difficult to use it in battle for me atm. Guess it's just a matter of practice... long and hard practice... *sigh*
Kuronekokun
02-23-2008, 01:37 AM
I went and tried it out a bit after taking a look at this thread , and the second arrow does come out much faster.
It's hard to pull off consistently (and it was near impossible for me on Pikmin's bouncy platforms stage :P), but I'm guessing it's just a matter of practice like Sunblock said.
It's definitely useful though from what I tried.
BAND!T
02-23-2008, 10:14 PM
im having difficulty getting the timing for the arrows. im assuming you tap b right off the shorthop.. but do you spam the button to get the second arrow out? or do u need specific timing?
legendganon
02-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Hes the new Falco. BTW thats a GOOD THING.
Kuronekokun
02-24-2008, 01:48 AM
im having difficulty getting the timing for the arrows. im assuming you tap b right off the shorthop.. but do you spam the button to get the second arrow out? or do u need specific timing?
It's a specific timing, I think.
I can get it semi-consistently by pressing B after the first arrow a certain distance from the ground... unless it's just a coincidence :P
KazuTheNut
03-01-2008, 08:06 PM
That's sure to be a technique all of us should master.
Can Link do it too or....
Will19
03-04-2008, 04:47 PM
Easy to do.. not very usefull though.
TheKneeOfJustice
03-04-2008, 09:33 PM
Easy to do.. not very usefull though.
Fox's SHDL was not extremely useful. This however has hit stun and can be used for a clever edge guard.
Will19
03-05-2008, 11:05 AM
Fox's SHDL was not extremely useful. This however has hit stun and can be used for a clever edge guard.
Yeah, guess that could work.
But I prefere two smooth bairs or dair instead. :3
NJzFinest
03-05-2008, 11:32 AM
Wasn't Kizzu the first one to do this?
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Yeah, I think he was.
Doesn't even matter though, it's a sweet tactic nevertheless.
It's a good tactic when you want to camp, I've been testing it a bit and for example if you want to camp you shoot 2 arrows quickly so you have more chance of hitting / distracting them.
Dudechapguyman
03-06-2008, 12:12 AM
This is really cool. When you hit the ground it cancels any animation that was supposed to take place before the firing of the arrow and just has you instantly fire the arrow. In other words, it's just like Bowser's flame canceling, only with arrows. I'm sure most of you have figured that out already, but it hasn't been mentioned, and some people are probably still unclear on the mechanics.
Scrubs
03-06-2008, 03:24 AM
Easy to do.. not very usefull though.
It is pretty useful.
Downward angled Boomerang followed by SHDA is extremely hard to dodge. They will most likely stand there and shield.
Good for camping.
Really good as an edge guard.
Clink
03-06-2008, 04:16 AM
The SHDA, as it's bein pronounced so far, I'm findin' to be quite useful for comin' in for a combo or playin' games with your opponent. Just like in Melee his projectiles are a big advantage and play a roll in combos like no other. The second arrows animation does seem to be faster. If timed right and connecting with both or just one of the arrows, it's still that slight stun in the opponent.
(No i've no played. i'm basin this off the tons of vids I've watched. i'm not tryin to start an argument)
mellowD
03-06-2008, 04:42 AM
demonstration vid coming soon... :(
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