Video footage of Ness's move set.

[Hitaku]

I made this video for a friend and thought the rest of you would like to see it. This video just shows Ness's move set in Brawl as well as a comparison of Ness's absorption vs Lucas's. During that comparison I make sure to kill Wolf after each laser to remove the chance of diminishing damage.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai8T74ii7AY

[Levitas]

Thanks Hitaku! This is really awesome.

[AdmantNESS]

Many thanks to you. That will be a great help!

[EToaster]

Interesting. So not only can Lucas' PSI Magnet be used as an attack, but it also heals roughly 50% more than Ness'. I think Ness definitely got the short end of the stick on that move.

[NessOnett]

Interesting. So not only can Lucas' PSI Magnet be used as an attack, but it also heals roughly 50% more than Ness'. I think Ness definitely got the short end of the stick on that move.

But Ness' defends both sides, and given how much less lag it has seems to be very useful for what its primary function is...defense. I prefer it to Lucas', i have other ways to attack and the 50% increase in heal is hardly enough to compensate that it only covers 50% of Ness'.

and thanx to Hitaku for doing this

[tux_do]

wow, I hope ness still has some advantages over lucas

[NESSBOUNDER]

Nicely done! You forgot his ftilt and Uair though! XD

It would also have been cool if you'd hit with the very tip of the bat rather than the middle to compare.

[NESSBOUNDER]

But Ness' defends both sides, and given how much less lag it has seems to be very useful for what its primary function is...defense. I prefer it to Lucas', i have other ways to attack and the 50% increase in heal is hardly enough to compensate that it only covers 50% of Ness'.

and thanx to Hitaku for doing this

If Lucas gets hit from behind by an energy projectile during PSI magnet, he just turns around and absorbs it.

[Piks]

Thanks so much for doing this, you did a great job showing the moves functions and how they were changed.

[NessOnett]

If Lucas gets hit from behind by an energy projectile during PSI magnet, he just turns around and absorbs it.

did not know that, thanx for the info. I been concentrating on Ness more than Lucas though.

[Conformal_Invariance]

So Lucas' PSI Magnet comes out quicker(?), has damage potential, covers both sides of him, and heals more?

That's a bit... stupid.

They should've kept a little balance between the two specials.

OR I AM NOT PAYING GOOD ENOUGH ATTENTION

[NESSBOUNDER]

So Lucas' PSI Magnet comes out quicker(?), has damage potential, covers both sides of him, and heals more?

That's a bit... stupid.

They should've kept a little balance between the two.

OR I AM NOT PAYING GOOD ENOUGH ATTENTION

It's a fair tradeoff for how awesome his PK Fire and PK thunder 2 are.

[EToaster]

So Lucas' PSI Magnet comes out quicker(?), has damage potential, covers both sides of him, and heals more?

That's a bit... stupid.

They should've kept a little balance between the two.

OR I AM NOT PAYING GOOD ENOUGH ATTENTION

That's what it's sounding like to me. But hey, if you get hit by powerful energy attacks from both sides at the exact same time, only Ness will be able to absorb both of them!

[Conformal_Invariance]

That's what it's sounding like to me. But hey, if you get hit by powerful energy attacks from both sides at the exact same time, only Ness will be able to absorb both of them!

An absurd situation, but a viable point nonetheless!

It's a fair tradeoff for how awesome his PK Fire and PK thunder 2 are.

Yeah, that's true.

HOORAY FOR PILLAR

[EToaster]

Actually, on a more viable note, I don't think Lucas would be able to absorb a direct hit from something like the Halberd's laser, or the beams on Spear Pillar.

[Simna ibn Sind]

i missed the part about Lucas' downB dealing damage....can sum1 fill me in?

[Ademisk]

Lucas's Down B deals damage.

[Simna ibn Sind]

vids or it didnt happen

[SenorPresidente]

vids or it didnt happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtdYZzdcCH4
:19

I guess it still is too early to tell but it feels like they went out of their way to make sure lucas was superior.

[NESSBOUNDER]

i missed the part about Lucas' downB dealing damage....can sum1 fill me in?

Not only does it do damage, but it has huge knockback at higher %.

[Arcade]

vids or it didnt happen

Go find videos yourself. Lucas's PK Magnet does 8% damage.

Edit: Wow, I thought this place would be dead at this time of day.

[Hitaku]

Nicely done! You forgot his ftilt and Uair though! XD

It would also have been cool if you'd hit with the very tip of the bat rather than the middle to compare.

Lol, this is very true. I blame it on the fact that I made it directly after waking up. XD

Happy you all can make use of this.

[Axel-of-the-Key]

Thank you, this is much appreciated.

[NessOnett]

Nicely done! You forgot his ftilt and Uair though! XD

not complaining, but you also neglected to show his recovery attacks from the ground and the ledge.

[Jono]

Go find videos yourself. Lucas's PK Magnet does 8% damage.

Edit: Wow, I thought this place would be dead at this time of day.

you know who you're talking to??

[Ademisk]

you know who you're talking to??

It's just Simna. I insult him all the time. Watch.

Simna, you're a lazy *******.

[Levitas]

Can he edit posts here?

[NESSBOUNDER]

Simna's a cool mod. He hangs out with the groovy smashers. (I.E: people who use Ness.)

[Ademisk]

Yeah....yeah he is..

Feel lucky Ness users.

[RedMage8BT]

Lucas seems like a completely different character from Ness. Like people who main Lucas might not also be good with Ness.

Looks like I was mistaken. It seems Lucas's PK Thunder has quite a bit of hit stun.

[Ademisk]

Ness + Lucas for Doubles

Ultimate Team.

[NESSBOUNDER]

Ness + Lucas for Doubles

Ultimate Team.

Double PK Fire/thunder nonsense ahoy!

Also, with friendly fire on, Lucas can PK Freeze heal Ness and vice versa. lol.

[Ademisk]

Right? My thought exactly, considering the speed of PK Freeze and PSI Magnet.

[Simna ibn Sind]

hi ademisk u still awake? i went to bed early yesterday and just woke up^_^

[Ademisk]

I'm crazy. Deal with it.

[IrishSheikah]

Okay, Ness is not his 64 self. He's just a better version of his Melee Counterpart. Just remember to take advantage of his movement more. Thats my guide and a half

[Ademisk]

That's your guide...and a half? It was a sentence. That's not even advice, let alone a guide. He's nothing like 64 OR Melee. Seriously, play Brawl or don't make assumptions.