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drengist
02-03-2008, 07:35 PM
Our forums ----> http://foxforce.makeforum.org/

The Galactic Armada forums ---->http://thegalacticarmada.freeforums.org/

This is the Fox Force a clan dedicated exclusively to Fox McCloud the saviour of the Universe and all around nice guy. The Fox Force is unarguably the most important part of the Starmada Brigade, an alliance all about StarFox franchise.

In Super Smash Bros. Melee Fox was always the right character choice if you wanted to win. In Brawl, nothing is changed and he's still the number one. Now, someone may point out that Fox isn't the same waveshining combo machine that he used to be, but we in Fox Force firmly believe that Fox's superiority hasn't gone anywhere. Join the winner's side right now!

You can join the Fox Force if you 1) are a true Fox supporter, 2) like winning and 3) capable of relatively intelligent discussion*. Just post to this thread or PM me if you want your name added to the list. Oh, and you can only be in one clan!

*What this basically means is that I'll check what you've been writing on these boards. There's no minimum post count.

The Fox Force isn't only going to be a community for Fox fans, but also the ultimate knowledge source on all things concerning Fox's moveset, advanced techniques, strategies etc. We share friend codes and battle against each other and other clans via Wifi. We are all Fox users. We share our knowledge with each other and strife for intelligent discussion. The most important thing that separates smashers is their character of choice. Ours is Fox, but that doesn't rule out getting good with other characters as well.


Brawlcentral thread: http://brawlcentral.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5786

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The Galactic Armada Alliance:

- Z.E.R.O. Federation
- Pawnch
- The Ethereal Vanguard

Starmada Brigade Alliance:

- Ethereal Vanguard http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=141487
- StarWolf Squadron http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=130715

Friend Clans:

- Yoshi Clan
- Code Blue
- Team FiNESSe / PK Finder
- MK Clan (SWF)

Friendly Rivals:

- Wolf_Pack

Real Rivals:

-none


If your clan wants to ally with us, it has to request an alliance with both Cobalt Avians and Starwolf Squadron! We're always ready to accept new friend clans, though!


Members list:

USA:

Smash World Forums Members:
- shok192 (TX)
- Speedkitsune (TX) (3850 4826 5407 2716)
- Yatta Dante (OR)
- kenhead (NY)
- Goldkirby (CAL)

Brawlcentral Members
- Jinto (CAL)
- Lightning x Thunder
- Dash
- killerfox (co-leader)
- AeryEcho (CT) (3865 7152 9248 7671)
- gamerxy (TN)
- Mallow (PA)
- FoxMakingWaffles (IL)

Canada

SWF
- Rampage

Europe:

SWF
- drengist (aka Abstract at BC) (Finland) (4998 9497 6187 7524)

Australia:

SWF
-_X_


Unknown:

BC
- pnokio2
- Airstrip
- Sir-Slipstream

Foreign Embassy
(Members from other clans can join the Fox Force foreign embassy under special circumstances)

- IsmaR (BC)

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drengist
02-03-2008, 07:37 PM
Fox's moveset: Attack percentages and stuff.

Videos:
Fox's Moves and Final Smash video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-2XS20Dkms
Fox (and Falco) exposition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X37-wBnWBiU
Fox vs. Wolf (Pokemon Stadium 2): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc5OwlK7no8
Fox (CPU) Vs. Wolf (Yoshi's island, Landmaster Failure vid): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ezpgf0f
Fox vs. Ganondorf vs. Mario/ Fox vs. Wolf vs. Link (Shadow Moses Island): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNOdkFwL
Fox (CPU) vs. Wolf (CPU) (Corneria): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM041_pN
Fox vs. Wolf (Delphino Plaza): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe5GG-H7
Fox vs. Rob (Green Hill Zone): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnhCOco-

Fox's moveset: Attack percentages and stuff.

Compendium of information: Thank you Aeryecho!
(Massive thanks to fiercelinkmaster71, who had a great video to confirm my damage percents~)
It works as follows:

General Attack type (If italicized, then I have shaky/missing info on the attack) (How to use the attack in game)
Name of attack
Description of what it looks like
Number of hits, % damage it deals
Quick comments, usually:
What it's useful for, anything special about the attack, and any difference from the same attack in Melee.

Note: This guide is written for a Gamecube controller set-up:
For Sideways Wiimote, replace control stick with d-pad, A with 2, B with 1, and Z with -
Nunchuck and Classic setups should read the same...

Neutral combo: (A, A-A-A-A...)
A: Double jab
Fox jabs twice
2 hits, 1,2% damage per jab
Very quick attack, much faster than in Melee.
Press A repeatedly: Lightning kicks
Fox kicks very fast, Chun-Li style.
Multiple hits (varies), 1% per kick.
These kicks are much more useful than in Melee: they can keep your opponent in the kick combo, and drag others in if they get close. Fox's legs will stretch when he does this attack.

Dash Attack: (While Running, A)
Flying kick
Fox jumps up and does a jumping, side kick.
1 hit, 7% damage
Very useful, this can lead up to combos: it hits the opponent into the air, allowing for juggling.

Forward tilt: (Press the control stick to the side, THEN press A, or press A while walking)
Side kick
Fox kicks to the side. His leg stretches as he does this attack, increasing the range.
1 hit, 6% damage
A quick attack with good range, this is a good counter for an opponent who uses smashes.

Down tilt: (Press A while crouching; Press the control stick down, then press A)
Tail sweep
Fox spins around while crouched, sweeping the enemy's feet with his tail.
1 hit, 9% damage
Because this is low down, it can be useful against enemies off an edge, or crouching/crawling. It also is rather fast, but cannot be spammed as well as it was in Melee.

Up tilt: (Press the control stick up, then press A)
Reach kick
Fox leans forward onto his hands, and kicks one of his legs upwards, reaching about the height of his head.
1 hit, 10% damage
Quick, high up, this attack is perfect to combo/juggle with, or as an anti air attack.

Forward Smash: (Press the control stick to the side and press A AT THE SAME TIME. Hold down A to charge the attack)
Front Flip Kick
Fox does a full front flip and brings his heel crashing onto the enemy
1 hit, 16% damage
This attack moves Fox, giving it about a 2 character range. Agressive, this attack is a strong KO move with good knockback

Down Smash: (Press the control stick down and press A at the same time. Hold A to charge the attack)
Split Kick
Fox does a split, kicking both in front and behind him at once
1 hit, 14% damage
This attack is useful for enemies that use rolling dodges to get around you. It hits enemies away at low angle trajectories.

Up Smash: (Press the control stick up and press A at the same time. Hold A to charge the attack)
Back Flip Kick
Fox does a back flip, kicking as he flips over
1 hit, 16% damage on the way up, 14% on the back

Neutral Aerial: (Leave the control stick neutral and press A while in the air)
Kick
1 hit, 6% damage
A basic kick...not much to say. It's useful as it stays out for a bvit, and you don't need to time the attack perfectly...

Forward Aerial: (Press the control stick in the direction you are facing and press A while in the air)
Tornado Kick
Fox spins around and kicks multiple times
5 hits, 2,3% damage per kick
Buffed from melee, this attack is much quicker and doesn't last as long, so you don't fall helplessly while attacking thin air if you miss...
Enemies hit by the attack tend to stay in the attack for the duration of the combo

Back Aerial: (Press the control stick away from the direction you are facing and press A while in the air)
Back Kick
1 hit, 10% damage
This attack is pretty basic, with ok knockback. It's a good KO attack at high percents, since it is easier to land, but it isn't very strong...

Down Aerial: (Press the control stick down and press A while in the air)
Drill Kick
Fox spins and kicks like a drill, doing multiple quick hits
7 hits, 2,3% damage per hit
This attack looks about the same as in Melee, no real comments.

Up Aerial: (Press the control stick up and press A while in the air)
Side-flip kick
Fox flips toward/away from the screen and kicks above him with both feet
2 hits, 17% damage (6%, then 11%)
This aerial is probably the most powerful, with the highest knock back. It is vital to know how to hit with this attack.

Neutral Special: (Leave the control stick at neutral and press B)
Blaster
Fox shoots his blaster quickly. The beam is red.
1 hit, 1,2% damage
Highly spammable, the shots can be very quickly repeated for damage. However, the range is shorter than in Melee's, and now barely reaches across the gap at the Bridge of Eldin.

Side Special: (Press the control stick to the side and press B)
Fox Illusion
Fox strikes a pose for a single moment, then dashes a far distance very quickly, hitting enemies as he passes through them
1 hit, 4% damage
With less startup time than in Melee, this attack has also been weakened from 7% to 4%. It's a good recovery and surprise attack, but be careful not to shoot yourself off the edge.
the ending time seems the same, I can't really tell...
You can make the dash shorter by pressing B in the middle of the dash: wherever Fox is when you press B is where he'll stop.

Down Special: (Press the control stick down and press B)
Reflector
Fox uses the reflector, which makes a large blue hexagon form around him, bouncing any projectiles shot at him away, doubling the damage.
1 hit, 5% damage
Certainly a strange, unique attack in Fox's arsenal, this attack is designed to protect him form flying items, projectiles, energy shots, etc.
It doubles the damage of anything it reflects, but this doesn't happen for explosive things like Bob-ombs.
The lag at the beginning is a slight bit slower than in Melee, but it isn't all too noticeable...
The reflector shield is now bigger, and doesn't spike as easily. It hits enemies to the side, and sometimes at an upward angle too.
Can be spammed by pressing B repeatedly, and can be kept out by holding B, but it doesn't hurt enemies if you keep it out:
It only shocks at startup.

Up Special: (Press the control stick up and press B)
Fire Fox
Fox charges up energy around him for a bit, then shoots straight in a direction, surrounded by fire.
5+ hits on startup, ~14% damage
1 hit while flying, 8% damage
Fox's main recovery move, this attack can reach a good distance. Use the control stick to aim which direction he moves in.
It acts the same as in Melee...

Grab: (Shield and press A, or just press Z)
Fox's grab is still fast like in Melee, great to use as a surprise attack to gain control, or if your opponent is shielding

Grab attack: (Press A while you are grabbing your enemy)
Knee
Fox hits the enemy with his knee.
1 hit, 1% damage
Much faster than in Melee, you can almost spam it over and over...

Forward Throw: (Press the control stick in the direction you are facing while grabbing an enemy)
Elbow Bash
Fox bashes the enemy with his elbow/shoulder
1 hit, 7% damage
A basic forward throw, it's pretty quick. In Melee, Fox could also bash any enemies he isn't grabbing if they stood right in front of him.

Back Throw: (Press the control stick away from the direction you are facing while grabbing an enemy)
Back Blaster
Fox throws the enemy backwards and shoots at them.
1 hit (throw), 3 hits (shots), 8% damage total
While it's not likely, the blaster shots CAN miss the target...
However, Fox is much more accurate in Brawl then in Melee, and the throw is generally much faster.

Down Throw: (Press the control stick down while grabbing an enemy)
Floor Blaster
Fox throws the enemy down as he jumps up and shoots at them.
1 hit (throw), 3 hits (shots), 9% damage total
This attack can't miss the blaster shots unless Fox is hit and interrupts the throw...

Up Throw: (Press the control stick up while grabbing the enemy)
Star Blaster
Fox tosses the enmy into the air and shoots straight up at them
1 hit (throw), 3 hits (shots), 2% damage throw, 2% damage each shot, 8% damage total
Like his back throw, Fox's shots CAN miss the enemy.

Recovery attack: (While lying down, press A or B)
Face down: Fox swings both legs back, then forward, kicking on both sides
1 hit, 6% damage
Face up: Fox swings his legs above his head, then swings his leg over as he stands up
1 hit, ?% damage

From the edge attack: (while hanging on a ledge, press A or B)
< 100%: Fox swings up and drill kicks as he slides along the ground, then flips back up to his feet
1 hit, ?% damage has invincibility frames
This attack has good range, use it to trick unwary opponents...
> 100%: Fox slowly struggles up the ledge, then quickly flip kicks.
1 hit, 11% damage, has a lot of invincibility frames
This attack can be seen from a mile away, use it with caution...

Final Smash: (After destroying the smash ball, leave the control stick neutral and press B)
Landmaster
Fox summons the Landmaster (a giant tank), and you can control it:
Control Stick: Move/Ram enemies
Jump: Hover
Crouch: Barrel Roll
Attack/special: Shoot
Shots: 18% damage
With high knockback, this is the primary form of attack...
Ramming: 16% damage
This hits enemies into the air, making a perfect opportunity to shoot them.
Barrel Roll: ??% damage
This has good knockback, and is useful to get enemies standing on top of the Landmaster

Comments on Fox
Quick, light, Fox is the epitome of speed in Super Smash Bros Brawl
While he has been said to be slowed down, it is not true, rather, the entire gameplay of Brawl is a bit slower paced:
Fox himself has his speed intact. He runs and dashes the same speed, if not faster.
Fox is notorious in Melee for being a fast faller, and from what I've seen in Brawl, he seems to be floatier than his Melee incarnation, but is still a comparatively faster faller than some of the other characters.
His rolling dodges move him roughly 3-4 character lengths, but is shorter compared to other characters's rolling dodges. His air dodge and sidestep dodge look the same too...

Random Differences:
Fox no longer spins when he does the Fire Fox (Up+B attack)
The Reflector is a brighter blue, and is larger the instant the attack begins. It also bounces items that are affected by gravity horizontally: If an egg is thrown at Fox from a higher platform, then the reflector no long bounces it back up. Other projectiles that float will continue to float when reflecter (Luigi fireballs, PK fire/thunder)



This list is incomplete. I gathered these from gameplay videos and many thing are missing. Some may be wrong. If you have something to add or correct, please tell me.

Melee percentages are in brackets.

If you have Brawl, we certainly could use some help on this! Go to training mode and start doing these moves. Write up how much damage a move does first time (the maximum amount)and how much after few hits (the minimum amount).

My version

A: 2?- (3-2)
A,A: ? (3-2, 3)
A,A,A...: ? (3-2, 3,1)
Dast attack: 8-4 (7-4)

Side-tilt: 8-5 (9-4)
Up-tilt: 8-? (12-5)
Down-tilt: 10-? (10-5)

Side-smash: 16-11? (15-8)
Up-smash: 18-13? (18-10)
Down smash: 15-? (15-9)

Nair: 10-5 (12-7)
Fair: ? (usually 18-5)
Uair: ? (16-9)
Bair: 16-8 (15-8)
Dair: ? (varies between 16-1)

Forward-throw: 7 (3)
Away-throw: 9-8 (7)
Up-throw: 8 (7)
Down-throw: 10? (4)
Knee: 1 (3)

Neutral-B: 3-1 (3-1)
Side-B: 4- (7-3)
Up-B: 15-8 (+) (14-7 (+))
Down-B: 5-4? (5)

Final Smash:
18-17 (cannon)
16-15 (crush)

This list is incomplete. I gathered these from gameplay videos and many thing are missing. Some may be wrong. If you have something to add or correct, please tell me.

Melee percentages are in brackets.

If you have Brawl, we certainly could use some help on this! Go to training mode and start doing these moves. Write up how much damage a move does first time (the maximum amount)and how much after few hits (the minimum amount).

A: 2?- (3-2)
A,A: ? (3-2, 3)
A,A,A...: ? (3-2, 3,1)
Dast attack: 8-4 (7-4)

Side-tilt: 8-5 (9-4)
Up-tilt: 8-? (12-5)
Down-tilt: 10-? (10-5)

Side-smash: 16-11? (15-8)
Up-smash: 18-13? (18-10)
Down smash: 15-? (15-9)

Nair: 10-5 (12-7)
Fair: ? (usually 18-5)
Uair: ? (16-9)
Bair: 16-8 (15-8)
Dair: ? (varies between 16-1)

Forward-throw: 7 (3)
Away-throw: 9-8 (7)
Up-throw: 8 (7)
Down-throw: 10? (4)
Knee: 1 (3)

Neutral-B: 3-1 (3-1)
Side-B: 4- (7-3)
Up-B: 15-8 (+) (14-7 (+))
Down-B: 5-4? (5)

Final Smash:
18-17 (cannon)
16-15 (crush)






Advanced techniques:


Character match-ups.

-Knux-
02-03-2008, 08:43 PM
Ah, I'm glad you set it up. ^^

The Starmada Brigade is now shaping itself up...

Relhots
02-04-2008, 12:58 AM
Ah, I'm glad you set it up. ^^

The Starmada Brigade is now shaping itself up...
Now its just like a city...we have to build from the ground, up...:laugh:
(i love analogys/phrases/quotes :laugh:)

raul
02-04-2008, 11:23 AM
Greetings,

I am Raul, one of the Founding Members of the StarWolf Squadron. You have all my support and should you need anything send me a PM.

Master WGS
02-04-2008, 12:16 PM
If Fox wasn't such a clone of Wolf, I'd like him. :)

The Don
02-04-2008, 12:20 PM
How is a character who has been in tow games prior a clone? Also wolf isnt a fox clone if anything he is what luigi is to mario but not a direct clone........

drengist
02-04-2008, 01:23 PM
He was joking around...

shok192
02-04-2008, 01:27 PM
OH, whats up. I would like to join the Fox Force. PM me for the detail on how I can join please.

raul
02-04-2008, 01:48 PM
I'm going to add you to the Starmada Brigade links on the SWS 1st post. Let me know if you need anything.

drengist
02-04-2008, 03:29 PM
YO, whats up. I would like to join the Fox Force. PM me for the detail on how I can join please.

Nothing more is needed. You're a member now.

Relhots
02-04-2008, 06:07 PM
Nothing more is needed. You're a member now.
Why did you put the moveset on a different post? to keep it more organized? just wondering...

It's finally set up...yay!!! :laugh: (sorry im in a really good mood today :))

Layupfreak
02-04-2008, 06:19 PM
cool set-up :). i cant oin though :(. i have my own clan.

drengist
02-04-2008, 06:23 PM
Why did you put the moveset on a different post? to keep it more organized? just wondering...

It's finally set up...yay!!! :laugh: (sorry im in a really good mood today :))

I wasn't really sure about the space limit, so I made an extra post just in case. The amount of information that's eventually gathered to this thread may be enormous. You remember the IGN Melee Fox faq? It's humongous. Maybe we succeed in making something similar.

Relhots
02-04-2008, 06:35 PM
I wasn't really sure about the space limit, so I made an extra post just in case. The amount of information that's eventually gathered to this thread may be enormous. You remember the IGN Melee Fox faq? It's humongous. Maybe we succeed in making something similar.
Sorry, but im never on ign...you can post alot though on one post...alot.

SpeedKitsune
02-04-2008, 07:41 PM
Hey, you forgot the final smash in the move list. I'd like to join this if I could... >.> I love fox.

Relhots
02-04-2008, 08:04 PM
Hey, you forgot the final smash in the move list. I'd like to join this if I could... >.> I love fox.
We would be glad to have you part of the Fox clan...the more the merrier :)

-Knux-
02-04-2008, 11:17 PM
Great to see things taking shape...

By the way, that's one badass picture of Fox. I couldn't have picked a better one myself.

Master WGS
02-05-2008, 03:49 AM
How is a character who has been in tow games prior a clone? Also wolf isnt a fox clone if anything he is what luigi is to mario but not a direct clone........

He was joking around...

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=141989

Joking, am I?

The Pope Of Pie
02-05-2008, 04:44 AM
GO FOX

The only thing he needs is a better multi-man moves

Not bagging Fox or Falco but is it ironic you have to beat 100 man melee to get one of the worst multi man characters

raul
02-05-2008, 11:17 AM
I am surprised at the lack of members and interest this thread has. Fox is my main SSB64 and Melee which compels me to join, but I cant due to my commitments as one of the Founders of the StarWolf Squadron. I shall try to push some forums members in this direction.

Penguino3003
02-05-2008, 12:05 PM
hey i wanna join i love fox and im a fox user

drengist
02-05-2008, 12:10 PM
hey i wanna join i love fox and im a fox user

Edit. Scratch that.

shok192
02-05-2008, 12:49 PM
Yeah, put up the final smash, LANDMASTERRRRRRRRRR!!!

drengist
02-05-2008, 01:50 PM
Added some pics. Tell me what do you like them.

shadowfox009
02-05-2008, 03:16 PM
count me in FOOOOXXXXXX woot!

raul
02-05-2008, 03:55 PM
Added some pics. Tell me what do you like them.

I love the collage look. I think you should take that original picture, the firefox one and keep it in the center by itself because of its badassness.

All Drengist, I posted some contact info at the bottom of the 1st post of the SWS thread, so feel free to contact me when ever if you need anything.

-Raul.

Relhots
02-05-2008, 06:01 PM
I love the collage look. I think you should take that original picture, the firefox one and keep it in the center by itself because of its badassness.

All Drengist, I posted some contact info at the bottom of the 1st post of the SWS thread, so feel free to contact me when ever if you need anything.

-Raul.
When i first showed the pic of fox and shiek...my friend said he was just asking for it (if you know what i mean)...:laugh:

Firefox/taunt = Best!!! it looks so cool..

Drengist: You should check the BrawlCentral forums...cause there are alot of Fox mainers there...cause i was one of them...There is more there than here...

_X_
02-06-2008, 04:30 AM
Sign me up

Also, do you want to/me to put this one

http://www.wifiwars.com/

drengist
02-06-2008, 06:50 AM
Sign me up

Also, do you want to/me to put this one

http://www.wifiwars.com/

You mean your account on Wifiwars? Yeah, I think it's a good idea to know how to keep touch outside this thread as well. I'll put all the friend codes and other stuff up once people start having Brawl.

Hey, you forgot the final smash in the move list. I'd like to join this if I could... >.> I love fox.

I added you.

raul
02-07-2008, 10:43 PM
HEY FOX CLAN MEMBERS!

I'm collecting wii numbers from all 3 clans and posting them on the first post of the SWS. That way we have an accurate list of everyone for online matches.

If you want/can, PM me your wii number, with the subject being wii number. Include SWF
name, wii number and what clan you belong to.

SpeedKitsune
02-12-2008, 01:44 AM
Alright guys, hope this thread doesn't die out.

drengist
02-12-2008, 03:41 AM
Alright guys, hope this thread doesn't die out.

It's rather quiet here, but let's wait Brawl coming to USA and Europe first. No need to panic just yet.

Rampage
02-12-2008, 04:44 AM
I demand to be on this list

If not I will hunt you down like a FOX

Goldkirby
02-14-2008, 11:05 PM
I'll sign up, since I will probably be maining fox again. If I do decide to main someone else, I'll let you know to be removed from the list, but yeah sign me up for now.

drengist
02-15-2008, 11:19 AM
Members list update.

AllStars
02-16-2008, 06:38 AM
hmmm ill have to think about it

Rampage
02-18-2008, 05:57 PM
Could somebody please make a banner that's small enough to fit into the SWF signature box? I'd really like one.

super_bacon807
02-18-2008, 07:07 PM
I'll be maining Fox for sure, so sign me up.

Biggie Smalls
02-19-2008, 01:50 PM
Hey guys, I'd just like to announce that the Star Wolf Squadron has recently gotten a new forum. We encourage you as our allies to join up! Right here: http://z15.invisionfree.com/Star_Wolf_Squadron/index.php

We'll make your leaders moderators!