Marth's Recovery

[MonsterCC]

Does anyone know if Marth can still use his Side B to recover?
A video would be appreciated if one can be found :D

[draigaran]

I too was wondering about that.

[SiShenDao]

in all the videos i've seen none of the marths were even short hopping...

[Roith]

k look at my post in video acrhive u wont get the answer u want to

BUT the marth player is very good compared to what ive seen so far ull see very well how much marth has changed

[draigaran]

http://www.wifiwars.com/?q=node/75

To me it seems like he tries to futilely side b... so I guess no?

[Jx31]

There are some decent(for brawl) Marth vids in a youtube profile I'm going to link at the end of this post. I can't really tell for certain but Marth's recovery almost looks BETTER, though I'm not sure if it's the side-b or the improved di.

vids in question here: http://youtube.com/profile_videos?user=Meljin&p=r

[Roith]

side b does not but jump height a up b have been greatly improved

[MonsterCC]

Thats going to be a hard habit to get rid of.
Man they screwed with Marth a lot. X_X

[Enigmalik]

I don't know if this is really old news, sorry if it is. but while marth is in the air, his neutral b (shield breaker) has a horizontal push.

u can see it at around 4:10 in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5142fHYDdBc

its likely accentuated due to the wind terrain/level thing on Pokemon stadium. but... yea :)

[draigaran]

I don't know if this is really old news, sorry if it is. but while marth is in the air, his neutral b (shield breaker) has a horizontal push.

u can see it at around 4:10 in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5142fHYDdBc

its likely accentuated due to the wind terrain/level thing on Pokemon stadium. but... yea :)

Wow, I did not know that.. nice...

[MonsterCC]

I don't know if this is really old news, sorry if it is. but while marth is in the air, his neutral b (shield breaker) has a horizontal push.

u can see it at around 4:10 in this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=5142fHYDdBc

its likely accentuated due to the wind terrain/level thing on Pokemon stadium. but... yea :)

If you watch a little bit further when they are playing on Corneria he uses Neutral B again in the air and indeed the effect is not really the same. A little bit after 5:20.

Also an example of the vertical boost of the side b around 5:05.

Glad we are figuring this out :D

[Roith]

cool but will the sidr b boost help ......im sure it does (i hope?)

[MonsterCC]

It almost looks like the side b boost is from the second move in the combo or something. And yeah it delivers a pretty serious boost, but looks like it wouldn't be able to be used as frequently.

[blueriku]

would you have to charge his side b to get more horizontal push?

[Fatal_Aroma]

From my playing it almost seems like the side b removes horizontal movement when recovering, it's definitely not a viable recovery anymore. I haven't tried the second hit boost though.

[Rakath]

It looks like you use the first attack to stop yourself from being thrown further away, the second attack gives you a slight forward move, then you use Dolphin Slash to make it back from there...

[Shaolin-Ninja]

Um, the boost that people seem to think is side-B looks to me like double jump => fair. Also, the neutral B seem to only push you forward a little, maybe more if you charge it. I think you'd be better off with double jump => air dodge, the latter will in this game push you in the direction you're already going, and you'll still be able to use up-B after it. Neutral B migth help slightly if used from a high place, but otherwise, i doubt any other B-move'll be worth recovering with.

[Kips]

I'm hoping he can't recover as well, elsewise it would be disgusting how little he was nerfed. Not that I hate Marth, I love playing as him, but even I recognize the need for balance.