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Phoenix_Dark
01-29-2008, 08:29 PM
I kept waiting and waiting for someone else to post this, but its been taking too long. So, http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d92/DerbmeisterX/SSBB_MarthFS.png Let the discussion begin.

Edit: Video of some unlucky Bowser CPU's. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d6UFj_5FUcU Overpowered much?

MysticKenji
01-29-2008, 09:28 PM
...

No idea at all what it is...

Omega_Star
01-29-2008, 10:07 PM
Yeah, that doesn't really tell us much <.<;

Zevox
01-29-2008, 10:25 PM
Looks like thats just the startup attack - you know, such as Meta Knight's cape swing, or the opening blow that Ike and Link need to land to begin their FSes. So it tells us nothing, really.

I'm hoping it will be something good and unique, but I fear given the laziness with other FSes we've seen (Falco = Landmaster, Ness = PK Starstorm, Link and Ike = very similar) that he'll just end up with a big sword combo like Link and Ike.

Zevox

Okysho
01-29-2008, 10:47 PM
I can't really tell what that is, aside from a health bar... we'll just have to wait for Skrai to say more

Sailyfee
01-29-2008, 11:38 PM
I assume it's a critical hit move he does in the FE games.

achilles1515
01-30-2008, 12:46 AM
looks like he just got the smash ball but didnt use his FS yet and just did a dash attack? anyone?

GenG
01-30-2008, 05:07 AM
I think it's a one hit KO move, possibly like MK's.

Chaosblade77
01-30-2008, 05:42 AM
Judging by the fact the health bar is not full, he is probably mid-FS. I'd say it's a sword combo, but it's different than Marth and Ike's. For example, maybe it's timed and you have to try to get the health bar all the way down, resulting in a OHKO. Your opponent can still move and try to dodge the attacks...

Or maybe it's just a sword combo that results in a kill, or at least close to one.

Rakath
01-30-2008, 05:50 AM
I hope that if it is a "They suddenly have HP" scenario, that if you hit them to zero they just blink and vanish, old school FE style...

Tabris-
01-30-2008, 09:39 AM
I assume it's a critical hit move he does in the FE games.
It's that, he does the pose of a Lord just before he strikes. I just saw it streaming on a video from Japan (before it lagged out) and it was a OHKO on Ike.

AustiniusRex
01-30-2008, 09:43 AM
if i had to guess, i'd say he does like like a bunch of rapid strikes to an enemy and that bar shows how many are left.

Zevox
01-30-2008, 09:51 AM
looks like he just got the smash ball but didnt use his FS yet and just did a dash attack? anyone?
Thats a distinct possibility, actually. Now that you mention it, the attack in that picture does remind me of his f-tilt.

So essentially this picture only really tells us what color he glows when he gets the smash ball. Well, hopefully we'll get some images or videos of it soon - everyone else is (Falco, Wolf, Ganondorf, Game & Watch, Captain Falcon, Ness...).

Zevox

W.Jr
01-30-2008, 09:57 AM
hmmmmmmmm??????? i don't know, can't really tell

Tabris-
01-30-2008, 09:58 AM
if i had to guess, i'd say he does like like a bunch of rapid strikes to an enemy and that bar shows how many are left.
It's a 1 hit. The energy bar is just a nod to the FE series, I didn't really notice it when I was watching some guy playing it, but it had no overbearing affect on the FS other than to look nice. It's like in the FE games, a critical hit took off a good portion of your HP, if not all of it. Why not show that this is a OHKO by showing HP (for aesthetics) and knocking it all the way down to 0 to show an OHKO.

Thats a distinct possibility, actually. Now that you mention it, the attack in that picture does remind me of his f-tilt.

So essentially this picture only really tells us what color he glows when he gets the smash ball. Well, hopefully we'll get some images or videos of it soon - everyone else is (Falco, Wolf, Ganondorf, Game & Watch, Captain Falcon, Ness...).

Zevox

To copy pasta myself from 4chan:

So, I tried to image cap as many new final smashes as I could, then ***got leechers came onto the stream when Captain Falcon was about to do his. So, since the stream is now dead, I thought I'd post the 5 Final Smashes I saw (that weren't on the dojo)

Marth - Critical Hit, looks like a OHKO. It was training mode and Ike had 0% before the final smash started.
G&W - Becomes Cthulhu, too laggy to see effects
Ganondorf - Turns into Ganon, sweeps everybody off the screen.
Wolf - Landmaster
Jigglypuff - Inflates and pushes people off
Captain Falcon - **** the ***gots who came on when he was about to do his final smash.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1923/finalsmashesjx0.jpg

Tabris-
01-31-2008, 03:27 AM
It's effectively this
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/2540/eliwoodlordswordzs4.gif

That's all they did for Marth's FS, and added a life bar for the sake of it. Like I said (because I'd already seen it :p)

There was a youtube video posted too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uckxhPd8zQY

Seems that Sola also posted it in another thread :)

Beauregard
01-31-2008, 05:09 AM
Freakin' hot

HeroXL
01-31-2008, 05:35 AM
Don't think much of it visually, but you can't argue with results :)

G-star101
01-31-2008, 06:00 AM
Found it guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6UFj_5FUcU&feature=user

estebanchaidez
01-31-2008, 06:12 AM
ahh! so sweet. :D i dont care what anyone else says, i love it. X3

Tabris-
01-31-2008, 08:25 AM
HOLY ****, IT HAS RANGE.

From what I'd seen on the live streams and videos I thought it was only close quarters.

rubiksfriend
01-31-2008, 08:25 AM
I assume it's a critical hit move he does in the FE games.

That looks really sweet! Unfortunately, his USmash appears to be the same, but I'm not too bummed about it. Is the FS affected by "tippers"? Probably not, but one can still hope.

marioseven
01-31-2008, 08:34 AM
It's a one hit KO move like MKs.

Tabris-
01-31-2008, 08:42 AM
Aye, from that last Youtube video, it OHKOs from any point. It's potentially the best FS for any character.

Edit: I'm still really shocked about the range. Even though I've watched about 11 hours of live streaming from Japan since Tuesday, at least and videos on youtube. I should be doing med school work, but I've been tired all week and this has been so exciting...I sound really sad now, I should stop :p:laugh:

pinoyfox
01-31-2008, 09:36 AM
theres 2 videos of marths FS... I have one as shown
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytIhZp8vxzU although its to fast when its performed in this one and theres a better video of someone showing it much clearer and more detailed on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehxL4VGAdGk ... dont post pics it doesnt show anything anyways

Witchking_of_Angmar
01-31-2008, 09:45 AM
*Watches Marth FS demonstration video* *Orgasm*

ThePrime
01-31-2008, 11:13 AM
I have to admit that looks pretty cool. But seriously, one hit KO? Are they trying to make him imbalanced?

Viral
01-31-2008, 11:25 AM
I like it.

It looks pretty cool, seems like a one hit KO and the life bar is a nice touch.

Charlesz
01-31-2008, 11:46 AM
Woo marth is in brawl!

Phoenix_Dark
01-31-2008, 12:38 PM
I was going to say maybe it would be easy to dodge, since he has the animation of holding the sword up at the start, but when he jumps up with those Bowser's, they all seem to freeze in place. Marth gets final smash ball = gg.

Mageus
01-31-2008, 01:16 PM
I am just glad they kept his final smash true to a Fire Emblem crit

Virgilijus
01-31-2008, 01:34 PM
I like the life bar that shows up on the die: nice touch for those who played Fire Emblem and would always pray for a critical hit :)

And a 1 Hit KO...I don't think Ike or Metaknights is that strong...

Phoenix_Dark
01-31-2008, 02:10 PM
Yeah, not even Ike's can KO at zero percent. It's official folks. Marth is stronger than Ike. Well, when he wants to be at least. >.>

Felcis
01-31-2008, 03:00 PM
I like the simple animation and the decreasing "health bar". It stays true to the "Fire Emblem" series and looks cool.

But...is it really not possible to evade that attack at a certain range? An unpreventable 0HKO with 0% on a long range would be just insane, especially if it works on multiple targets.

Anth0ny
01-31-2008, 03:06 PM
One hit KO? Awesome. Even though it doesn't look too spectacular (he just kinda stabs forward), I'm looking forward to pwning people with Marth's final smash :D

Shadow Calibur
01-31-2008, 03:08 PM
One hit KO? Might turn the tide in a tight match.

And there will be a way to avoid Marth's FS, I'm sure of it.

MysticKenji
01-31-2008, 03:50 PM
Ike's can KO at 0% guys >_>

Anyway, this is awesome.

Marth used Slash!
CRITICAL HIT!

Tsukuyomi
01-31-2008, 03:54 PM
KEN'S COMBO #2!!!

FAIR SPAM -> FINAL SMASH

Pyr0
01-31-2008, 04:07 PM
Hell yeah! one hit KO for the win.

Marth: God tiers die hard!

Black Waltz
01-31-2008, 04:52 PM
****ing sweet.