New Technique: J-Shine (video included)

[Phlemingo]

A new technique was formed and someone was actually recording it. This shine stall known as the J-shine is performed at either 1:44 or 1:47 in this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iurdP1wBDqs&feature=related by Fox and as said by the owner of the video (pupuran) the J-shine was found by someone he knew who's name was J=$D (or something like that) and it is when you rapidly do shines in the air allowing you time to attack between each shine in mid air.


Due to Brawl's overall floatiness this technique might have some uses.

[Flying Dutchman]

It's just rapidly stalling with the Reflector... How exactly this is a new technique escapes me. It WAS some rapid Reflecting though.

I'd say wait until you get the game, try it again, see if it has uses THEN bring it out unto SmashBoards calling it the J-Shine (which IS a cool name, I admit).

[Phlemingo]

It's just rapidly stalling with the Reflector... How exactly this is a new technique escapes me. It WAS some rapid Reflecting though.

I'd say wait until you get the game, try it again, see if it has uses THEN bring it out unto SmashBoards calling it the J-Shine (which IS a cool name, I admit).

It's a new technique because unlike in Melee, you can attack inbetween each shine without losing much height.

[Lol Meatknight]

Wait so can you do something like shine-nair-shine-nair rapidly?

[Demon_Gaara007]

Wait so can you do something like shine-nair-shine-nair rapidly?
That's what it looks like.
I don't quite see how the shine is being cancelled, though...
Is it now possible to cancel using an aerial attack?

[Phlemingo]

Wait so can you do something like shine-nair-shine-nair rapidly?

No you can't really keep doing a shine+aerial+shine, but basically its a stalling technique and to give you a good situation this might be useful, if you do a shine-spike, the opponent knocked off the edge will use he Up-B. Then you have the option of continuing with another shine-spike or using an aerial. So this developing "technique" is useful for stalling and edge-guarding as far as I know.

[Jisike]

This isnt a new technique... its just shine stalling...

[Pyr0]

This isnt a new technique... its just shine stalling...

But it seems to work a lot better in brawl.

[Jisike]

True, but its doesn't deserve a new name :/

[brawlmaniac]

Cool name but we don't know how useful it will be in battles. Same thing as in melee but it's A LOT faster.

[Gimpyfish62]

the person who "discovered this" in the video wasn't actually the person who discovered it

during our very first match with fox on the very first day of gameplay we were messing with the shine and discovered this, its even in my impressions thread XD

This isnt a new technique... its just shine stalling...

this also, but it is different, not different enough to warrant being completely new though

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Lol, I discovered(not taking credit, just saying I found out unintentionally) this during my first time playing with Fox.

Even though you can techniically stall with the shine, using aerials between the wouldn't work because you don't retain the momentum from the stall. You havr to consider how much lag is in between each attack, and thinking that you can stay t be enough to keep you alive. Even though the game is floaty, Fox still very soundly.

Not to mention that the shine won't see much practical use in his gameplay other than tech chasing after a shine.

[Cereal Rabbit]

I wondering if you can spam it as fast as you can on the ground.

Maybe you can spam the shine when you get hit off the stage to slow down the attack, but meh those're just my stupid ideas.

[Gimpyfish62]

you cant shine that fast on the ground no

[The Noob Legend]

Hmph, this is great to Fox players.
So basically is decreases the lag time to return to the stage and attack enemies using aerials...
Neat stuff.

[S.h.c.o.t.t.Y.1.0.8]

this should be great for me then :D

[Gimpyfish62]

just so you all know this doesn't really seem very useful in any way except for stalling

[S.h.c.o.t.t.Y.1.0.8]

and the point of that is....

[Gimpyfish62]

the point of that is stalling

lol

[Mad555]

I agree with Gimpy, there might be better ones that are discovered than the j cancel which wont help to much

[dark_Illusion_hokage]

Well this should be good for edge guarding if used properly.

[W.Jr]

i don't know if it spike, but it is a possibles. Though what use can it be in other then stalling like Gimpyfish62 said, when your off the stage

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

This technique is good for stalling, and nothing more.

This technique isn't as useful as it sounds when you are actually playing the game.

[Animal control]

looks pretty nice

[Desruprot]

Video please? I was hoping for a link, anyways likly a good Technique...

[haddos]

Um wasnt that technique mellee but the thing is can you jump out of it? cause then it will just bring back old technique alot of experienced players use to stay alive by canceling movement after getting hit by a near death move

[pinoyfox]

I was the one that invented that F$=D.... it happend at E for All ....
when I discovered how fast the shine was my theory since you all know in melee you jc shines but on the ground and well if your opponent keeps blocking all your 5-6 jc shines and u end it with a jc upsmash you would break the shield I know it was fun doing that .... so my theory was i tried doing that with fox at the brawl demo it wouldnt work so i thought of doing just a short hop and while the opponent depending on their height and perform the J-$#!N3 which is basically short hop close them while there shielding and of course shine continuously until you hit the ground hoping to break the shield or at least not get shield grabbed then proceed from there either upsmash or rapid punches watever you wanna go from there.

[pinoyfox]

too bad i didnt have a video of me doing it darn no cam at that time tho to show it

[pinoyfox]

OMG i just looked at the video and it was me hahaaha HELLZ yeah i didnt even know someone was video taping me hahaha yes it shows me doing it but for a lil bit only tho haha Good Job Future Bowser Expertize LON and Brian

[Fonz]

Anything figured out in a 1 day demo isn't a big enough breakthrough to be named after someone, it's basic ****. As other people pointed out this even existed in melee. The fact that fox is floatier so shine stalling has more uses is irrelevant, it's the same technique. On stages like mute city or brinstar or dk64 shine stalling could save your life when you could reach the stage while you waited for the road/lava/barrel to get into position to help you recover. It's like saying captain falcon's dash was faster from n64 to melee so if I played cfalcon first in melee I invented the Fonz dash! Sorry, doesn't work like that :/

[S2]

Why is it that people insist on naming things after themselves?

Its not a "J-Shine", its shine stalling and it was possible before. Furthermore, people don't need to name basic techniques after themselves. If that's the case I'm calling "S2 dodging" that's where you hold L or R and then roll to the side.

[Blatherskite]

Yes, please shut up with the whole naming of basic techniques that you didn't even discover. Thx

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

ZOMG Guys!!!!

I totally did this in the demo at E For All!! Name if after me and make up fasle descriptions of it's uses. Seriouosly, everybody who played with Fox found this out.

Me, Gimpy, Mike, Zel, Alex, AND you. This is only to name some. Also, I couldn't find a way to implement this in my game play other than using it as a stall till' sudden death.

[SlayerOfEvil]

Wtf, that's nothing new. So you shined in the air. Is that suppose to be the most groundbreaking thing ever known in the smash universe?

Catch back up to the real world, that's been used for a LONG while now.

[Ghettoman]

looks interesting, cant wait to get a hold of the game.

[A Diamond For Disease]

Why is it that people insist on naming things after themselves?

Its not a "J-Shine", its shine stalling and it was possible before. Furthermore, people don't need to name basic techniques after themselves. If that's the case I'm calling "S2 dodging" that's where you hold L or R and then roll to the side.

Hahahahahaha that's great.

[kobefox2485]

i dont think its a double shine, its how it looks like when the shine on

[Layupfreak]

that is awsome :)

[OTRU...]

hahaha why dont you call it shine stall? its not like its something new anyways, this was used in melee as well so you didnt really invent anything

[comboking]

i've done that in melee shine shine shine shine shine ect than up B