Delay could mean revamped Fox

[ozz3000]

Just a thought:

The delay to Feb 10th could mean that Sakurai and his team could revamp Fox to be more like how he was in Melee (faster, less floatier). I hope they realize how much they crapped him in brawl. I also hope they will bring back the "Turn around in air, standard special move." Meaning i could jump facing right, and still shoot my blaster to the left.

Peace

[Meta_Sonic64]

Delay could be b/c of many things, not just one character.

[Dragonbreath]

Don't hold your breath. . .

[Chepe]

You act as though they would think nerfing Fox is a bad thing... No, in the floatier environment of Brawl, Fox being as fast falling as in Melee would be broken. He look to be more balanced relative to other characters...

[chaos_Leader]

the delay is for all the characters, not just Fox. they are all going to be tweaked to their best for the January 24 release (February 10 for US) Its not going to be a revamp, but everyone is getting little tweaks.

[Animal control]

yea i hope they change up fox delay in his shine and other things, but you got to remember this isn't ssbm, Sakurai and his team are give ssbb a new look of playing the game

[Darkpaladin of Chaos]

Just a thought:

The delay to Feb 10th could mean that Sakurai and his team could revamp Fox to be more like how he was in Melee (faster, less floatier). I hope they realize how much they crapped him in brawl. I also hope they will bring back the "Turn around in air, standard special move." Meaning i could jump facing right, and still shoot my blaster to the left.

Peace
The whole point of changing Fox in the first place was because he was too good in Melee. It would be redundant and wasteful to just change him back, and a very bad idea considering he would be too good to begin with. And why do you say he sucks now? You’re still reading the exaggerated accounts of how badly he was nerfed. Well he’s still good, it’s just that he’s not as good. That’s what needed to happen in the first place. What you’re doing is advocating character imbalance, which is not what this game needs and one of the few bad things about Melee. Not only that but I’m sure they had their minds set on character physics long before E for All. A lot of people are blowing the ‘demo isn’t the final version’ idea out of proportion. Sorry, you just fail.

[Commander Blitzkrieg]

Sucky Fox for Brawl! Seriously, I'd hate going up against nothing but Fox on Wi-fi. To avoid said Foxathon, major nerfing is exactly what we need.

[SJAK47]

Fox is still good, you just got to figure out new ways to use him. Use the ground speed game more and less of the shines. If he's getting a revamp, then everyone needs a major revamp as well. An eye for an eye.

[IWontGetOverTheDam]

I'm fairly certain the delay is NOT for just one character.

[sonicspeed 96]

Just a thought:

The delay to Feb 10th could mean that Sakurai and his team could revamp Fox to be more like how he was in Melee (faster, less floatier). I hope they realize how much they crapped him in brawl. I also hope they will bring back the "Turn around in air, standard special move." Meaning i could jump facing right, and still shoot my blaster to the left.

Peace
The delay's for the whole game not just one char....

[Mav of Brill]

The whole point of changing Fox in the first place was because he was too good in Melee. It would be redundant and wasteful to just change him back, and a very bad idea considering he would be too good to begin with. And why do you say he sucks now? You’re still reading the exaggerated accounts of how badly he was nerfed. Well he’s still good, it’s just that he’s not as good. That’s what needed to happen in the first place. What you’re doing is advocating character imbalance, which is not what this game needs and one of the few bad things about Melee. Not only that but I’m sure they had their minds set on character physics long before E for All. A lot of people are blowing the ‘demo isn’t the final version’ idea out of proportion. Sorry, you just fail.

i agree entirely.
'nerfing' characters needs to be done if only to make wi-fi connection and battle more balanced and over all less repetitive. certain aspects of each character in melee need to be (and ultimately will i think) tweaked. for instance: link's up-B would spike recovering characters off the edge at any percentage, making it nigh impossible to reach land again if he camped there and waited. that has been fixed. i wonder if certain play-styles will be abolished too, like puff's WOP (though the difficulty mastering this technique i think made using it completely fair.) it isn't so much 'nerfing' as it is balancing each character so that the multi player battles don't become a monotonous continuation of fox fox fox playing fox fox fox beating fox fox fox. each character i think is going to be made so they have to be mastered. not a simple matter of overpowering your opponent with an unbeatable tactic of blasting up percentage from afar and using hit-and-run tactics to completely mangle them, but an actual mastery of each and every character you play. that would and will make pvp so much more...enjoyable. so don't worry about the 'nerfed' fox. chances are, each character will be different, even if it's to the disappointment of melee fans.

[iron blade]

the delay of the game is for the whole game, not just one character. if they happen to concentrate on any one character i hope it's ike, fox seems to be a little more balanced now.

[ozz3000]

Wow, I've had about 10 people pointing out that the delay is not only for Fox. I didn't mean that. I meant Sakurai could also look to improve Fox a little during the delay, he should have SOME improvement, right?

[Mav of Brill]

yes, some things probably should be improved, and no doubt will during the delay.

[PeteBeast]

The delay is for, new characters and tweaking characters.

Out of those that are getting tweaked, I HOPE that Fox is one of them, making him less floatier would be an ideal fix at this point, because his speed is the same, yet not the fastest (Sonic) and his reflector doesn't seem to be as strong as before... Which is something I'm not too exited about.

Lets not hold our breath, but rather keep out fingers crossed which is easier ;)

[Chasesin]

I hope they nerf fox, im tired of seeing 8 year olds use him....

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

Just a thought:

The delay to Feb 10th could mean that Sakurai and his team could revamp Fox to be more like how he was in Melee (faster, less floatier). I hope they realize how much they crapped him in brawl. I also hope they will bring back the "Turn around in air, standard special move." Meaning i could jump facing right, and still shoot my blaster to the left.

Peace


=/

Brawl Fox=/=Nerfed, Brawl Fox=Different, but still good

Brawl Fox=Fun to play

Brawl=Every character plays differently

I love Brawl Fox more than his Melee counter part. Nuff' said.

[orintemple]

Did none of you read Gimpy's impression thread about Fox? He said that Fox is still among the best characters in the demo from what they could tell from their playtime. Plus, I don't belive Fox is really all that "nerfed" as much as he has a NEW PLAYSTYLE so it makes it seem like he's worse when in the grand scheme of all characters he may be the same after a while. When Melee first came out Fox didn't have his Melee playstyle, right? So what makes you think we would know his best playstyle(or anyone's for that matter) yet?

[MASAHIROx]

o my goodness fox looks sexy from the latest update

[Ghost07]

This is brawl not melee.
Just because fox moves have been nerfed does not
mean he sucks now. New moves will be invented when the brawl
is out.

[linkrulezz]

.[/QUOTE]
Brawl Fox=/=Nerfed, Brawl Fox=Different, but still good

Brawl Fox=Fun to play

Brawl=Every character plays differently

I love Brawl Fox more than his Melee counter part. Nuff' said.[/QUOTE]


agree with him playing with the fox of ssbb looks more fun to me to

[Gimpyfish62]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

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