Dedede's Mecha Hammer...

[Firekid2]

Did I miss something in Squeak Squad? I never played it so...

[prettymanfairy]

Nope this is a Brawl exclusive. And a welcomed one. It adds a bit of diversity with the other hammer wielding characters.

[Meta_Sonic64]

And it makes D.D.D a lot more awesome

[smashbot226]

Meh...
Should been Hammerquake...

[Elec Man EXE]

Meh...
Should been Hammerquake...

That could easily be his Dsmash. I hope it is, in fact. Something different than other weapon users, who all seem to just swipe their weapon low on either side. And different from the IC's, which is the big one, since they use hammers too.

Besides, a hammer quake would have probably ended up like DK's DownB, with no use in the air. And thats no good.

[Supa_Sonic]

I'm lovin the Mecha hammer. That is why i think DDD is gonna be the best heavy Char in brawl:)

[KaptKRool]

My guess is that it's inspired by a move Kirby can do with the hammer in Kirby Superstar.

When he has the hammer and you hold up and hit the attack button, he charges up his hammer and then swings it, and theres fire and what not when he swings it. Theres no jet or anything that pops out, but I think they took that move, and upgraded it for Dedede, and thats where his Jet hammer came from.

You can charge both attacks up and both have some fire involved and from the pics of brawl, it looks like the movement will be very similar to the attack in Superstars.

[Elec Man EXE]

My guess is that it's inspired by a move Kirby can do with the hammer in Kirby Superstar.

When he has the hammer and you hold up and hit the attack button, he charges up his hammer and then swings it, and theres fire and what not when he swings it. Theres no jet or anything that pops out, but I think they took that move, and upgraded it for Dedede, and thats where his Jet hammer came from.

You can charge both attacks up and both have some fire involved and from the pics of brawl, it looks like the movement will be very similar to the attack in Superstars.

Thats probably true, yah. Seems like thats where the inspiration came from, anyway. With the mechanical thing just to have it make more sense (just how does a hammer catch on fire :o).

And now I'm going to be nit-picky. Technically, you can't charge the one in Superstar. It just has a long windup before the attack happens, to offset the huge power its got. Seems like a charge, but its not. And that attack has been in more recent Kirby games, too. It was in Squeak Squad, and I think in Amazing Mirror as well.

[t!MmY]

Technically, the hammer in Super Star is "chargeable" - it's just limited to a specific amount of charging time and cannot be held. But, I guess it's more common for a "charge" attack to be able to be held, at least for some variance of time, such as Marth's Shield Breaker.

But that just makes the Hammer (+scroll) ability in Squeak Squad even more "chargeable" (though it still only has one higher level of "charge").

And while I'm posting, I might as well mention that I too thought the idea of Dedede's hammer was at least somewhat inspired by Hammer attacks in Kirby games. Specifically the one in Super Star.

[Super_alex2]

I actually really like it, can you hear a new Falcon Paunch on the horizon?

[Meta_Sonic64]

As soon as I use the move I will make test to see how long it needs to be charged without taking damage.

[Desruprot]

Same here, I will also end up testing the power of his jump, if you look it actually has a good attack (referencing all games with DDD as final Boss)

[PsychoIncarnate]

Why do people keep asking for some kind of hammerquake or something

How did that even come up? He never does that...

Why would that be expected at all?

[WarMachine]

I actually really like it, can you hear a new Falcon Paunch on the horizon?

It will never be the same, unless Dedede yells something hilarious while doing his version.

[Brawlmatt202]

No, the Mecha Hammer seems to be completely new; nothing from Kirby: Squeak Squad or anything.

[Elec Man EXE]

No, the Mecha Hammer seems to be completely new; nothing from Kirby: Squeak Squad or anything.

Its not straight from any game. But the similarities to Kirby's Hammer ability in Superstar and Squeak Squad (Up+Attack in either game) are striking. Super powerful attack, long windup/charge, fire... much like Meta Knight's Shuttle Loop is taken from the Wing ability, it seems that this is based, loosely at least, on Kirby's hammer.

And in reply to Timmy on the whole charge thing... I've always considered a real "chargeable" ability to have you in control of the charge. If its "Push, and after a period of time it automatically launches with no input from you" like the Hammer thing, its windup, not charge. Thats just my thinking, though. I suppose it depends on which way you look at it.

[Brawlmatt202]

Its not straight from any game. But the similarities to Kirby's Hammer ability in Superstar and Squeak Squad (Up+Attack in either game) are striking. Super powerful attack, long windup/charge, fire... much like Meta Knight's Shuttle Loop is taken from the Wing ability, it seems that this is based, loosely at least, on Kirby's hammer.
I know this, thanks.

[Lgndknight]

who can't love a large penguin witH a JET POWERED HAMMER?!?!

[Commander Blitzkrieg]

I'm lovin the Mecha hammer. That is why i think DDD is gonna be the best heavy Char in brawl:)

Hell, he's gonna be the BEST character in Brawl (unless Mewtwo returns).

[Brawlmatt202]

Hell, he's gonna be the BEST character in Brawl (unless Mewtwo returns).
...And is given a better moveset...

Otherwise, King Dedede will rule! Well, he already does rule Dream Land, but this time he'll rule SSBB, too!

[Commander Blitzkrieg]

Meh...
Should been Hammerquake...

Hammerquake could be standard move. observe:

Standard B: Dedede Hammerquake

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7615/dedehammerquakeru0.png

[WingedKnight]

Well, that little schematic up there explains everything very clearly! Good work Commander ;)
That would actually be a pretty good B move for the King.

[Commander Blitzkrieg]

Well, that little schematic up there explains everything very clearly! Good work Commander ;)
That would actually be a pretty good B move for the King.

Hmmm.... Maybe I should make a speculation thread for missing moves...

[T-major]

Hammerquake could be standard move. observe:

Standard B: Dedede Hammerquake

http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7615/dedehammerquakeru0.png

the thing is though, is that a move like this could easily become a Smash attack. it works like that in the first place anyways, so theres no point in devoting a whole special move to it. I think his Standard B will be his Super Inhale. it's a signature ability of his after all.

[pyroroth]

since hes a penguin, i think that he should lay down on his belly and slide across the stage for all his attacks!

[shinzou]

that mecha hammer hurts dedede... that will suck but... he's gunna be the bomb!! literally!! But I guess that means I'm maining dreamland characters.... kirby, metaknight and dedede.... looks like it! maybe sonic too.... dang, i'm talking to myself again!

anyways, I agree that his B move will be the super inhale, cause logically, the hammer thing is more smash move like...

[pyroroth]

what will his super inhale do? i never played any of the dreamland games, will it be a similar effect as when kirby inhales or will it just do damage?

[Mirron]

It's just supposed to do damage. King Dedede inhales Kirby, then spits him out at high speeds, sort of like Throw Kirby does to most enemies.

[pyroroth]

ahhh, thats kinda gay.. unless it sends you a decent amount away with a good % of damage done. also, do you know what the length of his sucking power will be(lol?) longer or shorter than kirby's do you think?

[HourglassMemory]

ahhh, thats kinda gay.. unless it sends you a decent amount away with a good % of damage done. also, do you know what the length of his sucking power will be(lol?) longer or shorter than kirby's do you think?

What if he can suck in more than one character?

[pyroroth]

Thats Some Crazy Suck-age.

why doesnt caps lock work =(

[Mambo]

I acctually like kirby's abbility to spit them out, in free for alls it's fun to use your opponent to hit the other opponents. But I hope the inhale is like bowser's f-b, in that it can act like a throw.
For his hammer, I'm liking it and just hope his hammer charge move wont be useless in 1v1.

[WarMachine]

There's tons of ways they could make Dedede's inhale unique. Imagine perhaps that you could jump and angle the spit either up or down. Hop off an edge and spit-spike your enemy. :D

[T-major]

What if he can suck in more than one character?

how about items? it would be cool if he could suck up items (and the Waddle Dees he throws out :D) and use them as ammo too shoot at people.

and in one of the Kirby games (can't remember which one. I think Nightmare in Dreamland), in order to catch up with Nightmare, King Dedede shoots Kirby out of his mouth like a cannon, and it sends him all the way up into space! I think we can saftly say that Dedede's spit rang will be epic; and hopefully include angle influence.

[CodeBlack]

in one of the Kirby games (can't remember which one. I think Nightmare in Dreamland)

Right. It was Kirby's Adventure and/or the remake Nightmare in Dreamland.

I'm thinking that the Inhale will be one of this specials, but, to make it less like Kirby, they should probably make it more akin to Throw Kirby, or Backdrop/Suplex Kirby..

[rayecho]

its going to be too much fun tech chasing foxes with that buff *** hammer. lol

[Desruprot]

Actually It could go either way with the Hammer, But the hammer overall is just cool, his inhale I tends to use that before he goes down... I guess it could act like glide...

[ThreeX]

another tank... but this time equipped with a hammer, that has a jet engine in it, sounds good to me :D I still don't think that hammer can stop bowzer's headbutt though <3

[KingDedede2]

another tank... but this time equipped with a hammer, that has a jet engine in it, sounds good to me :D I still don't think that hammer can stop bowzer's headbutt though <3

This guy will own bowser head:laugh:

[TheJalapeno]

The mech hammer will be amazing, just wait and see