King Dedede, Multi-jumps?

[psyt]

I mean, you've seen it in the kirby games, yes dedede can jump and what not but he is clearly seen puffing, just like kirby, on more then one occation, do you think he will have multiple jumps? i mean, he should have atleast some puff related move, right?

wow, a heavy class char with 4-6 jumps possible

o.o

[Kirby knight]

King Dedede to the best of my Kirby knowledge never had mult-jumps, however he did go into a "float, baloon, w/e you want to call it mode". I'm sure King Dedede will go into a state like this as Kirby characters are most canon to their respective franchise.

-Knight

[MetaKnightmare]

In nightmare in dreamland, he sucked in air and became a big balloon and bounced around... Not exactly multi jumps, but expanding could be nair... or final smash!

[MysticKenji]

He could do a float, like Peach.

[T-major]

I think he should have a float type jump, but not really Multi-jumps. maybe his second jump could be a big one? he could inflate himself for his double jump, giving him a big lift-up (like Yoshi's flutter kick). another option is giving him a Peach like float.

[axemangx]

Hell, this could be a whole new technique, unique to Dedede and some other guys.

[slayert3ch]

I also think he should have a float jump. but it give the user the ability to influnce where he goes. Even more so than Peach. And does anyone know if dedede is gonna be a starting Char?

[t!MmY]

I don't see him as having more than one mid-air jump. He might be able to puff up by holding the Jump button, though... basically Gliding. I'd like to see Kirby do the same.

[Lgndknight]

whatever people said about peach, I say double jump, then puffing up, and he rises slightly while doing this. after that, his up pretty much guarantees a recovery.

[powerchord89]

dedede definitely floats, for those of you who are unsure. dont forget the dreamland stages in the past two games! He flies right by.

[Wight]

dedede flying like peach? now thats a funny idea. I would expect something completely new for him.

[Metal B]

Dedede have to Multi-Jump, becauce othersides his Recovery would be really terrible. His Up+B only goes horizontal, there have to be anonther way. Its possible that he can Suck Air and other people with B + Neutral and than Multi-Jump.

[CodeBlack]

I don't think his up B only goes vertical, as it's based on the games, and he gets alot of horizontal distance with it in the games...

[<3]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfhKljGSLdo

either way... sakurai made DeDeDe he'll act how he is supposed to.

[Lunadis]

Based on what they've done with Kirby and Meta Knight having Kirby Super Star qualities, I have a hunch Super Dedede Jump will act like the one from that game. A lot of horizontal distance on the way up, but it goes straight down after that. As for his jumping, he will definately be able to puff himself up, but I doubt he'll get multiple jumps. The reason why Kirby gets multiple jumps is because he flaps his arms for momentum. King Dedede just puffs himself up and begins floating where ever he so desires. D:

[Pieman0920]

Glide. That is all I have to say. The way Dedede floats is more of a glide than anything. Or maybe it's just because Brawl's gliding just looks like Dedede's style of gliding. =/

[MyBurden]

I don't think he will have any special jumps in this game. Can't really give a solid reason of why, just a feeling.

[Megadio26]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various10/various10_071029a-l.jpg

[sand_demom]

oh i was just gonna post it but yeah looks like he keeps his multi-jump

[Lunadis]

Or rather, glide. We still don't know if it's multiple jumps or just a single flowing jump like in the original games.

[PyrasTerran]

I doubt it, the original games don't hold too much water I'd say, as all three Kirby characters are based on their most recent incarnations in character design. The original kirby looks different enough from the current incarnation.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/cf/Earlykirby.jpg/180px-Earlykirby.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1a/Kirbysqsq.png

And in recent kirby games, and even in older ones like Kirby Superstar, Dedede is able to float around just like Kirby does.

That float look exactly like it.

I reckon that he may have 2-3 extra jumps as opposed to 5 extra like kirby.

[PsychoIncarnate]

Or rather, glide. We still don't know if it's multiple jumps or just a single flowing jump like in the original games.

I doubt it's a glide...

Of all things a Glide doesn't seem right with someone blowing up like a balloon...

balloons don't glide...


Even multiple jumps would make more sense

[Lunadis]

I doubt it's a glide...

Of all things a Glide doesn't seem right with someone blowing up like a balloon...

balloons don't glide...


Even multiple jumps would make more senseAnd plumbers don't double jump.

If you were to enter a large building, say a warehouse, and then throw a balloon, it would make a gradual forward descent thus glide. If this balloon could alter it's weight distrubtion, it could get brief upward momentum. Though since King Dedede is in a fantasy setting, he is allowed to have more upward momentum than one would allow for. Kirby gets multiple jumps because he waves his arms to gain momentum. King Dedede's arms don't move at all, as he only shifts his body weight.

[PsychoIncarnate]

And plumbers don't double jump.

If you were to enter a large building, say a warehouse, and then throw a balloon, it would make a gradual forward descent thus glide. If this balloon could alter it's weight distrubtion, it could get brief upward momentum. Though since King Dedede is in a fantasy setting, he is allowed to have more upward momentum than one would allow for. Kirby gets multiple jumps because he waves his arms to gain momentum. King Dedede's arms don't move at all, as he only shifts his body weight.

However, Dedede multiple jumping makes just as much sense as gliding, considering he does neither in the games...

Gliding is stuck in one path and can't go up and down, while multiple jumps bobs him upward in a violent motion...

Gliding has the smooth flight aspect while multiple jumps gives the less restrictive aspect of it...

They both would make just as much logical sense

[Lunadis]

However, Dedede multiple jumping makes just as much sense as gliding, considering he does neither in the games...

Gliding is stuck in one path and can't go up and down, while multiple jumps bobs him upward in a violent motion...

Gliding has the smooth flight aspect while multiple jumps gives the less restrictive aspect of it...

They both would make just as much logical senseGliding goes gain upward momentum briefly when you shift your weight to the back, though. >.> Just very limited, like Dedede.

[PsychoIncarnate]

Gliding goes gain upward momentum briefly when you shift your weight to the back, though. >.> Just very limited, like Dedede.

Still gliding is on a set path, Dedede bobs up and down at will...

I read that he developed his ability to fly by copying kirby (I think he first had it in Kirby 2, though not sure...he wanted to expand his abilities after his first defeat), so I think it will act similar to Kirby's in Smash...

I think we'll just have to wait and see though

[Lunadis]

Still gliding is on a set path, Dedede bobs up and down at will...

I read that he developed his ability to fly by copying kirby (I think he first had it in Kirby 2, though not sure...he wanted to expand his abilities after his first defeat), so I think it will act similar to Kirby's in Smash...

I think we'll just have to wait and see thoughThough since King Dedede is in a fantasy setting, he is allowed to have more upward momentum than one would allow for.I get your point though. We'll wait and see. :P

[W.Jr]

i didn't know he can float like peach

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/AKAcatrell/dancing-16.gif

[oxyborb]

However, Dedede multiple jumping makes just as much sense as gliding, considering he does neither in the games...

actually, dedede gliding would make sense. In the games he moves in one fluid motion, not in multiple jumps. My bet is that he glides. In fact, I'm almost sure of it. Multiple jumps just don't make any sense at all. He'll have two solid OK jumps, his b-up, then his glide.

[PsychoIncarnate]

actually, dedede gliding would make sense. In the games he moves in one fluid motion, not in multiple jumps. My bet is that he glides. In fact, I'm almost sure of it. Multiple jumps just don't make any sense at all. He'll have two solid OK jumps, his b-up, then his glide.

As I said, Gliding is fluid like his motion, but set of a very limited path while dedede can go up and down at will...


Besides, supposedly, the reason he started flying was the imitate kirby to fair better against him

[W.Jr]

thats going to be sweet

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/AKAcatrell/dancing-16.gif

[psykoplympton]

looks like its one jump where he just puffs up, dips alittle and goes upward. if its like yoshis then djc?

kings and kirbys "puffs" are way different. kirby,in the games inflates and then has to force himself up by flapping his wings or whatever. dedede just inflates.

[Lunadis]

As I said, Gliding is fluid like his motion, but set of a very limited path while dedede can go up and down at will...


Besides, supposedly, the reason he started flying was the imitate kirby to fair better against himThis is true. King Dedede spent countless hours mastering the inhale and floating technique just to defeat Kirby. As you do know, King Dedede never wants to be bested by anyone.

Don't want to sound too analogical, but the human race tried their best to imitate the bird. While they succeeded in "flying", it's a completely different yet viable solution. It's the same deal with Dedede. He copied Kirby, yes, but it's completely different. King Dedede flies like a glider/plane, and Kirby flies like a bird.

Gliding in Brawl allows you to go upwards (assuming you had momentum before hand), so Dedede could very well still stay true to his past movements if he so desired. For all we know, King Dedede could have his own extra jump, perhaps using the free-movement style of Wings of Icarus. I'm hoping it's just a glide.

[Brawlmatt202]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/various/images/various10/various10_071029a-l.jpg
So, yeah, he'll have multiple jumps. Awesome. :)

[<3]

dedede if anything works more like a blimp than a glider, watch that link I put up or I'll probably kill you.

[psykoplympton]

blimp makes sense, kirby is a hot air balloon and dedede is a blimp.

[Wyvern]

I really don't think that Brawl's ordinary gliding mechanic is suitable for Dedede at all. With Pit or Meta Knight, you can angle yourself down, gain a lot of speed, and then pull upwards. Can you really picture big ol' Dedede elegantly swooping around like that at high speeds? In the games, he moves slowly, and in any direction, without being limited by momentum or gravity or anything.

If it comes down to it being either a multi-jump or a glide, the multi-jump is definitely the more accurate depiction of the ability, as long as they give it a good animation. People say that he moves smoothly in the games, but so what? If you hold the button down in the old games, Kirby rises smoothly too. There's no jerky jumping motion for him either, unless you specifically try to do it.

Total freedom of movement would be the only perfectly accurate depiction of Dedede's floating ability, but assuming they don't add in a whole new mechanic just for him, multi-jumping would better preserve its actual capabilities and purpose.

[Lunadis]

Total freedom of movement would be the only perfectly accurate depiction of Dedede's floating ability, but assuming they don't add in a whole new mechanic just for him, multi-jumping would better preserve its actual capabilities and purpose.Adding a whole new mechanic is actually more likely then people think. If Sakurai wants the characters to be able to do something, he will do it. No need for silly things like consistencies or how limited it will be. He did it for Peach, he can do it again for Dedede.

[Drake3]

Adding a whole new mechanic is actually more likely then people think. If Sakurai wants the characters to be able to do something, he will do it. No need for silly things like consistencies or how limited it will be. He did it for Peach, he can do it again for Dedede.

Yeah that's basically my conclusion after reading this thread. After you double jump you'll probably be able to hold the button and have him inflate and float upwards slowly while you aim where he goes. Gliding wouldn't work and multiple jumps isn't entirely accurate.

[Lunadis]

Yeah. They did something similar for Wings of Icarus; after being activated you just hold in the direction you want to go. If you activate it while you have aerial, you'll still have some of the momentum while Wings of Icarus is active. They can do this for Dedede as well, so long as it's not broken.