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LinkSpecialist
10-26-2007, 04:46 PM
Does anyone here feel like all of a sudden we've been training with Link this whole time wearing invisible weights? I swear, I feel like this entire time we've been playing through Melee handicapped. This time, nothing is holding him back anymore! he's faster, stronger, swifter, just plain better. Let's face it, he's the Link we've been waiting for all this time and now....he is finally here.

On Feb 10th The fight for God Tier begins!! :laugh:

Tell me, am I right or wrong?
killbeast301
10-26-2007, 05:07 PM
YYYEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!111!0NE

now that you mention it, yeah. But just like real weight training we have to adjust slightly when we put the weights down.

edit 1st post!
Ogre_Deity_Link
10-26-2007, 06:54 PM
When you put it that way, Link's role in Melee was only for training. He was only letting the space animals win. Now in Brawl, vengance (and God Tier!) is his!!!

LINK 4 GOD TIER!
ArkiveZero
10-26-2007, 08:29 PM
Only one reason can explain why TP Link is faster than OoT Link.... He's got T3h C0w5!!!!1111

Link for God Tier!
killbeast301
10-26-2007, 08:30 PM
Letting spacies and sheik win. and sometimes C. Falcon
Pete278
10-26-2007, 09:41 PM
Does anyone here feel like all of a sudden we've been training with Link this whole time wearing invisible weights? I swear, I feel like this entire time we've been playing through Melee handicapped. This time, nothing is holding him back anymore! he's faster, stronger, swifter, just plain better. Let's face it, he's the Link we've been waiting for all this time and now....he is finally here.

On Feb 10th The fight for God Tier begins!! :laugh:

Tell me, am I right or wrong?
So, you'd say he's harder, better, faster, stronger?
LinkSpecialist
10-26-2007, 10:08 PM
In a way, yes!
KingBulbinX
10-26-2007, 10:18 PM
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!
His training from melee and Soul Calibur2 finaly paid off!!!
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!
LinkSpecialist
10-26-2007, 10:28 PM
If only his bow work like in SC2. Oh well.
ArkiveZero
10-26-2007, 10:28 PM
'chea it did

Pegasus Boots 4 Brawl!!!
Lin_
10-26-2007, 11:07 PM
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!
His training from melee and Soul Calibur2 finaly paid off!!!
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!
Link 4 God Tier!

Lol. I'm gonna be chanting that when I finally get Brawl and kick my friend's a**es with Link.
Sheik won't rape me with combos anymore, ho no.
ArkiveZero
10-26-2007, 11:11 PM
Link stole Falcon's boots, marth's sword, fox's gloves, and bowser's shell to make Brawl Link
DNL316
10-27-2007, 07:04 PM
You're dead accurate. Link has been improved dramatically in brawl.
Aaun
10-28-2007, 04:47 PM
Only one reason can explain why TP Link is faster than OoT Link.... He's got T3h C0w5!!!!1111

Link for God Tier!
What do you mean by cows? i assume you're talking about the goats of Ordon.

anyway, link for God tier!
drengist
10-28-2007, 06:13 PM
Link is my favourite in Melee, but i don't play him. Why? Because he's not good, and I prefer using winning characters. I certainly hope that they buff Link a lot for Brawl.
Aaun
10-28-2007, 06:36 PM
Link is my favourite in Melee, but i don't play him. Why? Because he's not good, and I prefer using winning characters. I certainly hope that they buff Link a lot for Brawl.
you mean the player who uses him is not good.
Buzz
10-28-2007, 08:44 PM
This is a good analogy. Those of us who suffered through intense training to become good with Link will experience a leap in power once Brawl hits. :D
W.Jr
10-29-2007, 07:10 AM
link is way better

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/AKAcatrell/dancing-16.gif
LinkSpecialist
10-29-2007, 04:19 PM
This is a good analogy. Those of us who suffered through intense training to become good with Link will experience a leap in power once Brawl hits. :D

This is exactly what I wanted to say for so long now! I simple could not have said it better myself.

Thank You!
Aaun
10-29-2007, 05:46 PM
link is way better

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p292/AKAcatrell/dancing-16.gif
who are you comparing him to?
Lgndknight
10-29-2007, 08:39 PM
So, you'd say he's harder, better, faster, stronger?

actually, hour after hour link's work is never over.
Ruckus
10-30-2007, 04:47 PM
actually, hour after hour link's work is never over.

Dont act like I never told ya
Dynamism
10-30-2007, 05:53 PM
I don't like the Brawl Link thus far...





yeah, I said it.
His grapple recovery sucks, his spin attack sucks, sure his dair and general play is "faster" but that's not enough to make up for the lack of recovery. Yeah he sweet spots the edge with UpB now...woop tee doo! That's the least of his worries. This Link is much different than melee. Hopefully his boomerang pull incorperates alot of new concepts but I'm not sure it's enough for "God Tier" because of the overall improvement to the roster as a whole. I would've prefered a strength boost over speed any day!
And Link was "God Tier" in melee when he moves note for note. It's hard, but he's unbeatable then...even from spacies AND sheik. You ever have those battles where you don't miss a beat and just rape? Yeah, those happen to me alot. But I don't main anyone.
And I think that's why it works for me. I play at a top level with every character and there are some (like Sheik) that really don't have many options of play but are effective with the few they have. When you isolate much of the typical "competitive" Sheik approach to battle, (which Link can plenty with spacing and projectiles) then Sheiks aren't much of a threat anymore.

And this "Link melee is training with weights for Brawl" thing...sure...make Falcon faster but take away his knee and he's no better. :ohwell: Brawl Link doesn't look anything like melee Link. Did training with 64 Link lift weights heading into melee? His Up B went higher ;)

Edit: Don't get the wrong impression...I still hope he's God Tier in Brawl :)
Buzz
10-30-2007, 08:24 PM
His grapple recovery sucks
It does? I thought it was way better.
reverse grapples + autosweetspot = happy day
his spin attack sucks
Yeah. Apparently even Nintendo staff thought it was "cheap" in Melee.
Aaun
10-31-2007, 09:08 AM
His grapple recovery sucks
yes, tell us how it sucks.
Dynamism
10-31-2007, 04:26 PM
"grapple sucks..."

1. You cannot air dodge directionally into it which aids for distance, better control over where you release it because of controlled momentum in that direction and the fact that you can avoid an edgeguard first without losing distance vertically.

2. It is shorter, not by much but it is. When you take away that minimal distance along with the air dodging distance and the add the downward momentum of Link falling, it's alot of range.

3. It sweetspots the ledge. This really pisses me off. Wither you can control it to "not" sweetspot or it just took away Links ability to have that third jump from just below the edge which was extremely crafty.

EX: On FD, if someone grabs the edge, you can stall and avoid an attack with the dodge then grapple them, striking them and letting go before it pulls you in (note you can strike them even if they've fallen below the lip because the grapple goes straight across) then you can let go for another jump either to recover/attack/pull out a bomb or other maneuvers (but now it just pulls you in right away).


that's about it
I've only seen it used a few times in those vids and it seems to be just as fast (which is good) but the new mechanics of it take much away from what it gave to Link in melee.

Brawl Link isn't melee Link with weights lifted...everything about him works differently and rarely will a "melee" tactic work in this game. :)